Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Politics : Bush-The Mastermind behind 9/11? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: American Spirit who wrote (10541)	5/1/2005 4:23:01 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 20039

Re: You cannot say Bush was behind 9-11 unless you have solid evidence. That is too much, way too much. It hurts your credibility. Welcome to the thread. I don't recall you contributing to our research here in the past, so I will assume that you are a newbie to the real investigation into 9/11. I'd strongly encourage you to seek out the link to Dr. David Ray Griffin's speech a few posts upstream on this thread, download it and watch the one hour presentation. Dr. Griffin is one of the most lucid researchers I've come across on the question of who perpetrated 9/11. His conclusion is the same as mine, i.e. 9/11 was perpetrated by forces of evil within the secret government. It was a false flag operation, and the 19 purported hijackers were merely patsies in a much larger game that is being waged. Michael Ruppert, the author of "Crossing the Rubicon" goes one step further than Dr. Griffin and states categorically after the thousands of hours of extensive research that backs up his book that Dick Cheney can be categorically identified as the mastermind behind 9/11. Again, I would strongly encourage you to do your own independent research. I've provided dozens of links on this thread, as have other contributors, and you find that the "official story" is nothing but a fairy tale. As Dr. Griffin so astutely observes, "there are a number of 'conspiracy theories' about what happened on 9/11, but the only theory that is completely debunked is the 'official story'". Dr. Benjamin DeMott says exactly the same thing in his excellent article in Harper's Magazine from last summer: commondreams.org *** Re: What you can't say is that Bush and Al Qaida were working together. The al Qaeda apparatus was created in the 1980s by the C.I.A., the Saudis and one determined S.O.B. from Texas named Representative Charlie Wilson, who created the largest covert operation in the history of the United States, amounting to about $5 Billion in U.S. and S.A. funds flowing to the mujahideen in Afghanistan. Al Qaeda, and the Taliban, weere direct outgrowths of this covert funding. There is evidence of C.I.A. complicity in arming and training the Afghan Arabs (i.e. al Qaeda) to serve as a destabilizing force in Bosnia, Kosovo and Chechnya. *** Re: Bush-Cheney are corrupt, but they cannot be that evil to murder thousands of Americans. I cannot imagine such a conspiracy to have ever taken place. I said exactly the same thing in late September, 2001. By November, 2001 I was doing my own independent investigation into the FAA/NORAD response to four hijacked commercial airliners on 9/11. I recalled the nearly instantaneous response of the Air Force and the commercial media (CNBC) to the Payne Stewart event. That's when I became aware that we were being lied to by the government. After ascertaining that there is no way in hell that Bin Laden could have controlled the response of NORAD and the USAF on 9/11, and that the lack of response was totally out of the bounds of standard operating procedure, then I had to determine how the Air Force had its worst day ever. The answers are pretty clear. There was massive confusion imposed on the system from the office of the Vice President, who was controlling multiple war games on the morning of 9/11, confusing those who were not co-conspirators. There's plenty of very good analysis of this that I can provide links for if you care to do the research. I happen to notice that you rarely link to outside sources, and seem to be someone who is content to merely state your opinions, however unfounded, without corroborating evidence. So I'm not going to waste my time providing a bunch of URLs unless you express a willingness to actually get out of your fantasy world and do some real work. Yes, I say that you live in a fantasy world because I've done the research, and there is no question whatsoever in my mind but that there is an evil cabal within the secret government (of which Bush and Cheney are the visible front men) that planned and executed 9/11 as a means to create a "new Pearl Harbor" to intentionally frighten the American public and create the environment which has allowed the militaristic imperialists to run roughshod over society and essentially end the American experiment in democracy. The sooner the American people wake up to the fact that the "war on terror(TM)" is a total fraud, the sooner we can begin to try to salvage democracy in this damaged nation.

To: American Spirit who wrote (10541)	5/1/2005 8:19:00 AM
From: Rock_nj	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20039

What you can't say is that Bush and Al Qaida were working together. While remotely possible due to the subterfuge we know exists, it is highly improbable. Bush-Cheney are corrupt, but they cannot be that evil to murder thousands of Americans. I cannot imagine such a conspiracy to have ever taken place. Just does not make sense. Think Viet Nam. That was a coordinated effort (conspiracy? Was JFK killed because he stood in the way of the Viet Nam plans?) by our government to feed the military industrial complex and bolster politician's of that era. Also, based on lies (Gulf of Tonkin). How many Americans died in that decade long war of lies? 58,000. Now, why is it inconceivable that this same government 30 years later might conspire to kill 3,000 of it's own citizens for the same two reasons: power and greed. There's no doubt that 9/11 saved Bush's Presidency and has fed the military industrial complex and oil industry big time profits. This scenario must be seriously considered given the past behavior of our government and the actual behavior on 9/11/01. I think it is more likely and plausible that the govt. knew 9/11 was in the works and just let it happen. Perhaps not a direct hand in it, but they just sat by, let it happen and then reaped the rewards.

To: American Spirit who wrote (10541)	5/2/2005 1:34:15 PM
From: Don Earl	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 20039

RE: "You cannot say Bush was behind 9-11 unless you have solid evidence." The evidence is solid and there is a lot of it. RE: "they cannot be that evil to murder thousands of Americans. I cannot imagine such a conspiracy to have ever taken place" It would be nice if such evil did not exist, but only a dewy eyed innocent could believe it does not. Such men have existed throughout history and the atrocities committed by those who have risen to power are sadly well documented. To date, the bounty paid to the Bush Crime Family on the 3000 9/11 dead amounts to several billion dollars per corpse. You wouldn't be safe from your own mother with that much money involved, and you can pretty much forget about her being caught if she just happened to be chief of police at the time you met your untimely demise. If you are still naive enough to believe US Presidents would never do such a thing, I would suggest you look up some recently released documents pertaining to what FDR knew about the impending attack on Pearl Harbor. We had broken Japan's codes a month before the attack and had the entire battle plan delivered on a silver platter down to the last detail. Rather than prepare to repel the attack, Pearl was stripped of its defenses. When members of PNAC, including persons such as Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Bolton, Perle, et al, announced on their web site they needed a "New Pearl Harbor" to advance their agenda, it shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Evil men are alive and well in Washington DC and the only thing keeping the evil in power is persons such as yourself who are terrified to face the fact that evil does indeed exist.