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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Wayners who wrote (43866)	5/1/2005 1:09:14 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 173976

The insurgents are backed by YOU every time you fill up. They receive all their financing from rich Arab oil countries, as well as an increasing stream of personell. The Vietnam I was referring to was the Vietcong, those that hid among the population, looked just like them, and enjoyed their popular support, while we backed crooked leaders much like Ahmad Chalabi, Iraqi "oil minister"! You're a perfect example of a Bushie cool-aid drinker. Ill informed, not too bright, with visions of WW II dancing in your head.

To: Wayners who wrote (43866)	5/1/2005 2:07:22 PM
From: geode00	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

1. No one knows how many 'insurgents' there are in Iraq. US Military estimates are as high as 200,000 when you include those who provide aid and comfort. There are also infiltrators into the ranks of the Iraq 'security forces.' The US Military admits they have no clue how many of those there are but think that they are everywhere. If the disaffected Sunnis (score one for oil minister and convicted criminal and Iranian spy Chalabi LOL) are the major force behind the insurgency, that's 20% of the population. 2. It's not just the insurgency: - it's the average criminal - it's the war weary citizen - it's the EXISTENCE of civil war even if it's not 'hot' enough to make it to the evening news (the corporate media is at least several months and sometimes years behind what's happening on the ground) Vietnam's first three years: fatalities around 400 Iraq's first two years: fatalities around 1600 Vietnam took years to ramp up PLUS the field medical services weren't anywhere near as good. Iraq's is much more deadly than Vietnam at the same point in time.