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To: TimF who wrote (161305)	5/3/2005 2:20:27 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

<China was invaded by Japan in 1931. > That obviously doesn't include Taiwan, though supposedly, Taiwan has always been part of China. So, China was invaded by Japan in the 19th century when Britain's empire was most assuredly ascendant. . <//Mercantilism and imperial conquest are flip sides of the same coin.// Mercantilism might provide the reasons for imperial conquest but they are two different things. In any case the US's trade policy is not mercantilism. //but the outcome is much the same. // The outcome isn't even vaguely similar, except perhaps in Iraq, and even then it isn't the same. > We see different things in that case. You'll have to suit yourself on that and I'll continue to see things the way I see them. Mqurice

To: TimF who wrote (161305)	5/3/2005 3:01:48 AM
From: marcos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

'In any case the US's trade policy is not mercantilism.' Huh? ... you may not have heard of your 'Commerce' department's corruption in re BC softwood lumber, then ... check it out if you like, and tell us that's not as mercantilist as any other mafia's operations The german concessions in China were given to Japan at Versailles, i think, and they had invaded Taiwan well before, 1890s ... could be wrong on date, anyway they treated taiwanese quite well, at least those who survived the initial resistance presumably, they were going to make the island officially part of Japan so they built good schools and hospitals, railways and highways etc It was Manchuria they invaded in 1931, sort of a return to where they had beaten the russians, they'd always had designs on the place, and then they expanded out from there China's claim to Taiwan is pretty nebulous, the original indigenous there were an austronesian people, the northernmost of a group that includes Mq's maori friends ... then the portugues, dutch, and spanish come along, in that order i think, much later the chinese [Qing dynasty?] ... there is a lot on the net about this, but i am typed out for the evening .... cheers