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To: marcos who wrote (161374)	5/4/2005 5:44:59 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

<so this and not 1948 is the watershed time, imho, because it is when it gets ugly, before this it was not so much, there was considerable cooperation between early zionists and indigenous> Indigenous people no doubt thought it a good idea to have people with money and business prospects setting up shop in the area. Similarly, Maoris thought it a pretty good idea to have the British set up shop in NZ. Living in ponga huts with stone weapons and eating pipis and kumara in the often bleak climate of New Zealand was NOT as good as having the things that the British brought with them. Unused, irrelevant land could be sold to the British for a whole bunch of blankets, muskets and stuff, which would then be established as towns with economic action, not to mention protection against the vicious bastards over the hills who were all too often doing raiding parties and eating anyone they could kill. Not everyone agreed with the process and the chief got most of the profits and it wasn't easy to give up the warrior, hunter gatherer way of life and turn to Libertarian/Christian property rights, especially when the British were not exactly fully-imbued with those ideals either. So there were some conflicts. I can see that it would have been a great idea to have Jews move into the area, from the viewpoint of the locals. As here, when the state became overbearing and local property rights were abused, then the fighting started. I suppose compensation for stolen property would be a good place to start in Israel. That process is well under way here. Mqurice