To: ManyMoose who wrote (103117 ) 5/4/2005 6:51:20 PM From: Grainne Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807 I don't think people should make a living from practices that hurt animals. I hope all the people in Alaska complain about the abuse of sled dogs when they see it. Of course if someone is kind to their sled dogs, that is great. I am not sure what you think I am saying, but I think my belief system is quite coherent. It is different from yours, but no surprise there. The problem with the Iditarod and greyhound racing is that so many animals are culled, and the conditions they are kept in are so bad, that abuse is almost impossible to avoid. Thank goodness more and more Americans have stopped attending greyhound racing events. Again, people voting with their dollars is very powerful in stopping animal abuse. Word about the Iditarod is getting out, as well. This is why several large sponsors no longer participate in the event. Again, the energy and momentum are with the people trying to stop animal abuse. This is a trend I'm very happy about. The whole concept of men using animals is under reconsideration as we discover how close animals are to humans in their intellect and their emotional life, as well. It is a kind of consciousness raising that the whole European Union is engaging in as they develop a body of law so that animals do not suffer, even if people eventually eat them. America factory farmed animals suffer every moment of their lives. This is a primary reason why I think I might be happier in Europe, actually. At least they are grappling with the ethical issues. The only farmers not abusing their meat animals are farmers raising free range, organic, vegetarian fed meat. That is a tiny percentage of American farmers, under 5% from what I've been able to determine. Regarding the place of animals in the lifecycle, and survival--in modern times, almost no humans need to eat animals or animal products to survive. As we can see from the statistics that came out yesterday where third world people are developing heart disease as they adapt a meat-laden western diet, it is quite obvious that in the global ecosystem, it would be a far healthier system for humans and the environment if meat production stopped entirely. And that would go for milk and eggs as well. These products contain cholesterol and cause disease. No one needs to eat them.