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To: Road Walker who wrote (231629)	5/5/2005 11:02:07 AM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572507

JF, interesting column. I knew of Lincoln's "faith-based" style of governing, but I didn't know he waged a personal struggle between secularism and evangelism. Nor did I know that secularism was a strong force even in Lincoln's time. Tenchusatsu

To: Road Walker who wrote (231629)	5/5/2005 2:28:08 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572507

Lincoln's core lesson is that while the faithful and the faithless go at each other in their symbiotic culture war, those of us trapped wrestling with faith are not without the means to get up and lead. Things are so polarized, its hard to be patient with someone who believes in moderation. He may have something there in his last point about who should lead at this point. As a secularist, I too am "trapped wrestling with faith" but never do I see a place for religion in gov't. ted

To: Road Walker who wrote (231629)	5/5/2005 6:46:18 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 1572507

Not a bad article. "Today, a lot of us are stuck in Lincoln's land. We reject the bland relativism of the militant secularists. We reject the smug ignorance of, say, a Robert Kuttner, who recently argued that the culture war is a contest between enlightened reason and dogmatic absolutism. But neither can we share the conviction of the orthodox believers, like the new pope, who find maximum freedom in obedience to eternal truth. We're a little nervous about the perfectionism that often infects evangelical politics, the rush to crash through procedural checks and balances in order to reach the point of maximum moral correctness." Not a bad place to be "stuck" in. Tim