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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (20039)	5/13/2005 12:24:14 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

"I only called you a liar when you called me a liar. You called me a liar many times. All of them were lies." So I was lying when I called you a liar? LOL Actually I asked you to substantiate your false statement or stop lying. Were you lying? Lets go to the tape. original statement: " <<<According to your view fully formed children do not have souls either. Does that mean it is alright for their parents to kill them?>>> "Please try to limit the absurdity of your commentary. Sane and rational people do not value or devalue one another because they think they may or may not have a "soul" based on whether or what church they attend. Rational people value one another for their humanity. Children have hopes and dreams. They have character and personality. They have thoughts, opinions, and feelings. And, of course, they add value to their group--the family and the community and the human species. Fertilized eggs have none of these things and they are not lovable for any characteristics whatsoever. They were just as potentially human when they were the wind and the rain and the breakfasts that turned into eggs and sperm as they are potentially human AS egg and sperm. They are just further along the path as a fertilized egg. Having human "building blocks" does not make a human being. Everything in the universe is a human "building block" just as they are building blocks for aardvarks and oak trees." Message 21313440 ........................................................... REPLY: "Rational people value one another for their humanity." <<<I have already demonstrated very clearly and rationally that a fetus is a unique human being. You clearly state that a fetus is not a human being, but the evidence you supply is not biological or scientific. They are emotional, subjective, and could apply equally to a new born. "They were just as potentially human when they were the wind and the rain..." That is totally false. A fetus is a human with potential but then so is a new born. Again I ask why kill one for convenience and protect the other with the force of Law?>>> siliconinvestor.com ............................................................ Solon; "That is not false. You simply do not comprehend. You believe that the sperm and the egg had no beginning but simply sprang into life like the magicians in Egypt used to create life magically without any building blocks." Message 21313809 .............................................................. REPLY; <<<Your assertion about magic eggs is as stupid as it is false. If you can show where I have ever said anything like that, do so, or else stop lying.>>> siliconinvestor.com ............................................................. It's clear to see that you are the one that falsely included and equated the existent human fetus with potential non Human material. You went on to try and hide the fact that you were caught doing so by compounding the error and stating another unsubstantiated falsehood stating; "You believe that the sperm and the egg had no beginning but simply sprang into life like the magicians in Egypt used to create life magically without any building blocks." Message 21313809 That is a lie! I don't believe that, and you failed to prove that I do.