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To: Ilaine who wrote (115419)	5/22/2005 4:43:38 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793919

<One should not blame the victim, but if you walk down a dark alley at night carrying a basketful of cash or if a sexy woman walks down a dark alley at night wearing almost nothing -- what happens will be predictable, and the victims damned fools.> In Japan it's not predictable. In 1990, a student who stayed with us in NZ was visiting our son Tarken-san and I at a youth hostel in Tokyo, and she was going to walk through a park at night to get there. I offered to meet her at the station but she said not to because "This is Japan and it's perfectly safe". In Japan, they walk around at night with wads of cash. Tarken-san [then 13] and I were walking around at 2 am looking for accommodation near Ueno station and semi-pickled guys were offering us money, which we declined with thanks. They were happy couples and people, out having fun. No feeling of threat. If we'd dropped a wallet, they'd have run after us with it. It's not like that in China, despite Bubba the Babbling and Yiwu the Mad thinking China is the greatest place and the Japanese are evil-doers. China is a thieving, dishonest place by comparison. Getting change can be hard work. Japan is apparently still highly safe according to Tarken-san who lives and works there now. Yes, yes, I've heard of Yakusa and I'm sure all the police in Japan aren't there just for fun and to make work. It would be much better to adjust the minds of the potential perpetrators than to treat a city as a swamp full of crocodile disguised as humans. Putting said perpetrators in cat food cans, with their photos and crimes on the label, would a good way of adjusting their minds. Allowing abortion on demand seems to be another way of adjusting their minds [preventing unwanted, unloved, rejected, undisciplined, wounded and angry people from being produced in the first place]. Some are just nasty, bad pieces of work and slip through the abortion net, appearing out of allegedly "good" families to wreak havoc and their thinking would be adjusted by cat food pictures. The twin pillars of stopping rational crime = knowing you'll be caught and knowing the consequences will be bad. The mad will still cause carnage, though even a lot of the mad are not mad enough to stand in the way of trains and take on big tough police armed with machine guns. Their madness is conveniently situational. "Well yer honor, I felt my old schizo self taking over, and then I completely lost it, and didn't know what I was doing, waking up to find myself running, for some reason". Plea = insanity. Yeah, right. Mqurice PS: In Australia, there's somewhere that made it illegal to leave your car unlocked. Crazy! That causes crime they say, so they blame the victim! The cost of crime is enormous but about half the population are crooks so they don't want laws to be too stringent - it's the OTHER people stealing who are bad. If there was no crime, the economic boost would be about 10% per year. Stores could be unattended, doors not need locks, cars not need locks and could be started by pushing a button.

To: Ilaine who wrote (115419)	5/22/2005 5:36:09 PM
From: John Carragher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793919

just because someone has been brought up in a different environment and not aware of the potential danger i cannot see blaming them for something they have no experience or knowledge. i can remember when someone would visit nyc , we go for dinner at night and then they wanted to take a late night walk back in 70's. they had no idea of big city life or the danger. same with some who visit the red light district in boston and would wonder up a street on their own just amazed at the sites. I kept a close eye on them being a city boy.g one time a guy was coming up from behind him. i expect to take his wallet. the looked back and we made eye contact and i pointed to three more guys. he quietly moved away from the guy. Of course if i mentioned it to this guy he would never have believed it. same thing when a bunch of guys went into a neighborhood mens bar and they get a little smashed.. since they are not regulars they should keep to themselves and leave the regulars alone. However, this night three strangers came in with three lovely woman. I had to leave for night school and told them not to attempt to make conversation with any of the girls as girls do not come in this place and these guys are strangers. the bar was run by the Family i figured these guy to be big time Family. I got a call the next morning in work. who were you with last night? I recognized the voice as another friend like me who used to frequent this bar. he tells me someone was trying to hit on a girl and he almost got his head blown off. the guy had his gun out already to take his head off but the bartender told him to put it away they were friends of a friend and they just had too much to drink. I mentioned this to the guy later in the day about not trying to make small talk with the girls and how close he came to not living much longer. He never believed me. I don't think he ever went back in there thou. ps you would think someone from kansas city would know better! g I think unless you are bought up with street smarts these people seem not to be able to see danger.