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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Greg or e who wrote (20147)	5/25/2005 6:00:00 PM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

Quickening happens at conception. Once again you have this misguided impression that the sperm and egg are dead. They are not, they have a full complement of genes and could not perform their function if they were dead. Life began 4 billion years ago.

To: Greg or e who wrote (20147)	5/26/2005 12:30:16 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

"Lies! all lies! yet again, and then compounded by lying about your lying" What a liar, you are!. But so interesting to watch you freakout with your baseless lies and personal attacks! "Your statements are plain and intentionally false. Quickening happens at conception. Before conception the "egg" is just an egg. After conception the proper term is Zygote or fetus" It is wonderful to know that my statements are "plain"--LOL! "Quickening" does NOT begin at conception. "Quickening" (in the context of fetal development) has ALWAYS been referred to down through all the centuries (by both Church officials and the science community and laity) as when FETAL movement can be detected by the woman. The fetus is said to have "quickened". You seem very confused (or intentionally obtuse) as regards terminology involved in fetal development. I will try to help you with that. The fertilized egg is termed a ZYGOTE. A zygote is NOT an embryo and NOT a fetus. About 3 days after conception the zygote is termed a MORULA. The morula is NOT and embryo and NOT a fetus. A couple of days later the morula is termed a BLASTOCYST. A blastocyst is NOT an embryo and is NOT a fetus. About 2 weeks after conception, the blastocyst is referred to as an EMBRYO. The embryo is NOT a fetus. 10 weeks after conception, the embryo is termed a FETUS. The fetus is NOT a child and it is NOT an embryo or a zygote. It is a FETUS. "I never said an egg was a person. What I said is that the fertilized egg or Zygote is a Human Being" Websters defines a human as "a bipedal primate mammal". The zygote is NOT bipedal so you are very very WRONG! "I guess you realized that the "potentially human" argument wouldn't fly so you dropped it. I think that was wise." I addressed the "potentially human" argument of the anti-abortion crowd and their ilk. I have demonstrated to you that being potentially "bipedal" and having a "potential" nervous system and brain consciousness is NOT the equivalent of actuality. This does not make me "wise" (although, I thank you!). It is basic information and knowledge. The sperm has human dna. The egg has human dna. The fertilized egg has human dna. None of these things are bipedal or conscious or human beings! "The "EGG" is not an egg after fertilization (as I have repeatedly shown) It's a Human Being and is afforded "rights" on that basis." You are being obtuse, once again! The zygote IS the term for a fertilized egg. It carries human dna but is NOT a human being. It has no "RIGHTS" whatsoever. "Having demonstrated that you are the liar instead of admitting the error you continue the personal attacks and intensify them hoping nobody will notice" You are really getting FREAKY! You post personal attacks with phoney web references that are unrelated to your assertions and you declare that you are right to be foulmouthed and obnoxious! As I said before to you when I was whipping your little backside! -- siliconinvestor.com "It's clear that you support partial birth abortion just as freely as you do the morning after pill!" Surely you have a comprehension problem--or is your "idiot face" just a put on? I have said repeatedly that I support the RIGHT to abortion. I have said repeatedly that abortion becomes more offensive the further it occurs in development. I prefer that unwanted zygotes be removed by a morning after pill. "The context of your statement clearly states that pregnancy may be terminated at "ANY time" up to and including birth." No--I did NOT say that birth and abortion were equivalent. If the fetus is born it becomes a child and abortion is not defined as the removal of a child. Abortion is the disposal of the zygote, morula, blastocyst, embryo--or fetus. It is NOT the removal of a child. Make an effort, greg or e! You can do it! "You can't be serious. As I just pointed out you support abortion at "ALL times" and you have consistently and intentionally used false and misleading language" I do NOT support abortions at all times. I have said repeatedly that I support the RIGHT to remove anything from inside ones own body at any time. Make an effort, greg or e! "Stop spinning your wheels and your wheels will stop spinning!" I am not spinning my wheels. I am responding to one who is (or pretends to be) an idiot!