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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (20153)	5/26/2005 2:10:04 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

You are getting weaker and weaker in your responses. I guess your position is now apparently that at all stages of development up until the time the Mother feels movement; its an egg?????? I don't know how else to interpret your statement? "Disposing of an unwanted egg occurs naturally and frequently--but it can also be induced in myriad ways. If the egg is unwanted then people should be encouraged and medically assisted to dispose of the egg at the earliest possible time before it "quickens"." Message 21325760 "baseless lies and personal attacks!" You said I lied and that you never refer ed to the fetus as an egg. Well there's the proof! ""Quickening" does NOT begin at conception." Quicken also means: To come or return to life: "NEW AND DISTINCT HUMAN LIFE (quickening) BEGINS AT CONCEPTION!!!! That's the scientific fact, but before that, you think it's just an unwanted egg. Someone is "very confused (or intentionally obtuse) as regards terminology involved in fetal development." It's you! <<<I guess you realized that the "potentially human" argument wouldn't fly so you dropped it. I think that was wise.>>> "I addressed the "potentially human" argument of the anti-abortion crowd and their ilk." NO you said the fertilized egg is only potentially Human. A claim you have not substantiated and in fact dropped when challenged and are now trying to deny even while you squirm and weasel about it. "They were just as potentially human when they were the wind and the rain and the breakfasts that turned into eggs and sperm as they are potentially human AS egg and sperm. Message 21313440 "The sperm has human DNA. The egg has human DNA. The fertilized egg has human DNA. None of these things are bipedal or conscious or human beings!" Of course the fertilized egg has it's own unique DNA that is distinct from Mother and Father. It may not be conscious or bipedal yet but it is most certainly a Human Being. You are just a bigger blob of DNA and you cannot lawfully be killed, but then you can defend yourself and the unborn cannot. Handy for you. <<<"The "EGG" is not an egg after fertilization (as I have repeatedly shown) It's a Human Being and is afforded "rights" on that basis.">>> "You are being obtuse, once again! The zygote IS the term for a fertilized egg. It carries human DNA but is NOT a human being. It has no "RIGHTS" whatsoever." You are the one using word games to kill. If zygote is the word why do and did you insist on repeatedly using the term "unwanted egg" if not to downplay the killing of a Human Being? Biologically and scientifically it is as much a Human Being as you are. Again you want to draw arbitrary and irrelevant distinctions so you can kill it right up to just before the moment of birth. "You post personal attacks with phoney web references that are unrelated to your assertions and you declare that you are right to be foulmouthed and obnoxious! As I said before to you when I was whipping your little backside! --" You said I was a liar when I reminded you that I bet you you could not post without personal insults and then you asked me to prove it. I proved it by posting the link and now you accuse me of posting phony links? Here it is yet again. Message 21165251 Get a life! <<<The context of your statement clearly states that pregnancy may be terminated at "ANY time" up to and including birth.>>> "No--I did NOT say that birth and abortion were equivalent. If the fetus is born it becomes a child and abortion is not defined as the removal of a child." I should have added Partial to birth otherwise my statement is completely accurate. <<<The context of your statement clearly states that pregnancy may be terminated at "ANY time" up to and including partial birth.>>> I can't help it if you have trouble defending the indefensible. As long as the entire child has not cleared the birth canal you say it is not a child and therefore it can be killed. That's just sick! "Abortion is the disposal of the zygote, morula, blastocyst, embryo--or fetus "I do NOT support abortions at all times." "I support the RIGHT to remove anything from inside ones own body at any time." Bull sh-t!!!! you do so and you don't have the stones to admit it! I challenge you yet again to stick to the issues and leave the personal insults aside. Can you do it?