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To: energyplay who wrote (64273)	5/25/2005 10:22:40 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Excellent analysis. Thanks for posting that. :) You might also mention MacArthur with LeMay as part of the Norman clique. As was General Lyman Lemnitzer who is notorious for the "Northwoods" plan. Deception seems to play a big part in the Norman mindset. Thus, Bush and his obsession with secrecy falls into this camp. As to the paranoid nature of the American right, an extremely graphic example of this bizarre worldview was expressed by WABC personality John Batchelor on the Washington Journal program last Friday. This interview is archived at C-SPAN: tinyurl.com Batchelor, in all sincerity, told the audience that WMDs are "history" and shouldn't be an issue, since George Bush is engaged in war for the very survival of America. And the countries that are imminently going to bring down America? Why North Korea and Iran, obviously. I haven't seen this paranoid psychosis so well demonstrated in a long time. For its antecedents, we must go back to the bizarre theorizations of "Clear and Present Danger" crowd of the 1970s, when Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Cheney and the madmen who've captured the Federal Government were trying to convince the American public to initiate preemptive nuclear war against the USSR. Their argument is best stated in what they had to say about the Soviet Union's nuclear submarine capability. They stated that since we could not detect this threat, that the Soviets must have created an undetectable stealth capability. I'm not shitting you. These people are nuts. *** Re: There is also a Hispanic / Latino / Texas strain in US military culture, but I don't know enough to comment on it. Michael Lind has commented on this strain. He sees this as developing out of the "Cavalier" strain in military leadership that predominated the thinking in the old South. In a nutshell, these people see themselves as completely superior to other human beings, completely justifying such noble institutions as slavery and raiding, such as was perpetrated by William Quantrill in Lawrence, Kansas: en.wikipedia.org I couldn't find the best Lind exposition, so this will have to suffice for now: newamerica.net Historians disagree about how many such enduring regional cultures there are in the United States. But most scholars agree on at least three: a "Yankee" culture that spread westward overland from New England, a "Quaker" culture originating in Pennsylvania, and a "Cavalier" culture originating in the coastal South. Most, but not all, include a fourth regional culture, that of the Scots-Irish Highland South, from Appalachia to the Ozarks and Texas. George Bush seems to be a Yankee gone wrong. Here's more on the Cavalier culture: jtsears.com The Cavalier Legacy of the Old South, for example, emerged during the second and third decades of the 19th century. As great debates raged over permitting slavery in new states, the federal government's power to impose tariffs, and Nat Turner's slave rebellion, the oratory and philosophy of John C. Calhoun saturated the South. Championing state's rights and defending the "peculiar institution," Calhoun celebrated a new southern consciousness. With the advent of the War for Southern Independence and the enduring burden of Reconstruction, this legacy was seared onto the psyche of future southern generations. We can clearly see that Bush is completely comfortable with the idea of slavery, inasmuch as he's attempting to impose it on 20 million Iraqis at present.

To: energyplay who wrote (64273)	5/25/2005 10:26:11 PM
From: Slagle	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

energyplay Re: Prussian/Norman. That is very interesting. I never thought of it that way. And I never knew that Curtis LeMay was involved with new math, of all things. Prussian-control, Norman-kill em all. You know, the English were some tough b*stards, at least they used to be. On the American Indians, one thing it is not appreciated how terribly fragile their cultures were even before the Europeans arrived. There had been numerous local extinctions. I have a good friend who is an acknowledged expert in the mound builder Indian cultures of the Southeast. His specialty is the "Spanish Contact" period and has conducted very many digs. Years ago he made an important discovery and later proved it (it is now widely accepted by his peers). He discovered that all of North Geroria, North Alabama and parts of Eastern Tennessee ect.(a vast reigon). had lain totally uninhabited by anyone for over 100 years, from the late 1500's to around 1700 when the Cherokee moved in to this vacant land from the North. He had been doing digs in Coosa kingdom village sites (those visited by DeSoto in the 1540's) and discovered that in a generation or two they just dissapeared. Smallpox may have been part of it but this was the second mound builder extinction there; the first one was around 1000AD. Interesting stuff. Slagle