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To: bentway who wrote (48265)	5/26/2005 11:03:53 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 173976

"Don't worry, though. You know people are just going to say the general is lying -- because, you know, that's what our military does." FAKE AND INACCURATE John Podhoretz The Corner The general in command at Gitmo says there is no "credible evidence" that the Koran was flushed down a toilet. Out of 13 accusations of Koran desecration, the military found five in which the Koran might have been said to have been "mishandled." In other words, there were at least 8 accusations that were, plain and simple, lies. Don't worry, though. You know people are just going to say the general is lying -- because, you know, that's what our military does. Or that what matters are the accusations themselves, not the truth of the accusations. As the New York Times puts it in a shocking act of dishonest summarizing in the midst of its own story, "the disclosures...reinforce the contentions of human rights advocates and lawyers for detainees that accusations of purposeful mishandling of the Koran were common." Yes, the accusations of Al Sharpton about the rapists of Tawana Brawley were common also -- but there were no rapists. It was all a pack of lies. But according to the logic of the Times, Sharpton and Company should be excused from responsibility for those lies because they made so many accusations. And by the way, since when do 13 alleged incidents over the course of more than 1000 days constitute a "common" occurrence? nationalreview.com nytimes.com

To: bentway who wrote (48265)	5/26/2005 11:38:37 PM
From: geode00	Respond to of 173976

I do believe that Bush talking about a Crusade and raining down bombs on a large number of civilians is sufficient to inflame passions in the ME. Of course, Newsweek is also to be blamed for Bush and the bs that comes out of his mouth. The Red Cross has been talking about problems with Koran handling for quite a long time. Besides, for the rightwing who fail to get it: 1. The Pentagon VETTED the Newsweek article. 2. The Pentagon and WH ignored the whole thing for 11 days it was such a hot issue. So much stupidity in such a small space of time. Bush uses a widely known Nigerian yellowcake forgery in the SOTU. No one seems to care or remember about that one. Bush's military has just bludgeoned two Afghan detainees to death. No one seems to care much about that either.

To: bentway who wrote (48265)	5/27/2005 7:45:10 AM
From: JeffA	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 173976

It is a book. If it pisses'em off, if it infuriates them, if they will talk in order to get the guard to stop holding it or standing on it, if mishandling(whatever that means)the Koran will save one American GI from one piece of shrapnel, it is worth it. Or would you rather go back to naked pyramids and dogs at genitals? Keep in mind this is a book. Yes I realize it enflames the entire culture of Muslims when this occurs and that is a shame. Much like when they burn our flag should anger us, but we don't go around and kill 6 people because of it, we realize it is a symbol, it is ultimately a thing, a piece of cloth or a piece of paper. The ideal behind it is what is sacred and cannot be touched by the crowds. Burning or flushing a Bible will not change my ideal of my forgiving and grace giving God. Maybe they should remember that.