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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (64356)	5/27/2005 5:41:35 PM
From: KyrosL	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 74559

>>Blaming the British for the opium trade is silly.<< So, you imply the Chinese were well aware of the health effects of opium addiction. I didn't realize that the British clearly labeled their opium packages with the skull and cross bones (or the equivalent Chinese death symbol) and had an extensive education campaign explaining the consequences of opium addiction. And the opium wars were trying to reinforce that message. Thanks for the education Mq.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (64356)	5/27/2005 6:41:17 PM
From: arun gera	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

>"Religion is the opiate of the masses" is about right. Maybe the religious don't like the competition. Selling religion is more profitable than selling plant toxins.> No wonder the religious don't encourage sex (unless you belong to a Tantric sect!). The religious are losing all control. People are having sex outside the certification they provide (marriage), they are taking prozac, they are practicing non-christian practices like yoga and Tai-chi (those liberals!). So much competition. What to do? Take over the government of the most powerful nation! Also see: siliconinvestor.com

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (64356)	5/27/2005 6:54:20 PM
From: Slagle	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Maurice Re: "opium" You might be on shaky ground with this one, Maurice, even on libertarian principles. The opium trade was a project of British Crown, among others, conducted in the "treaty ports" under the protective cannon of the Royal Navy. Not hardly the free market. The Spaniards managed to conduct a "China trade" for over 300 years and to do it without using any opium at all. That was the singular purpose for their Philippine colony. Chinese traders were able to smuggle porcelain , tea and other China products to Manila, Iloilo or Cebu, where they were exchanged for European goods or Mexican gold and silver. Twice or more a year a galleon would arrive from Acapulco with a new supply of mostly silver to feed the trade. Much of the "black" gold and silver in Asia supposedly arrived by this route. The pious Spaniards conducted their China trade relatively "cleanly" and I don't think they have been given the credit they deserve for their upright conduct. The British Crown was playing some early "geopolitics" with the opium trade and trying to destroy a rival empire and make some money at the same time. JMO <g> Slagle