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Gold/Mining/Energy : PEAK OIL - The New Y2K or The Beginning of the Real End? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bearcatbob who wrote (662)	5/31/2005 7:08:33 PM
From: Jurgis Bekepuris	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1183

Well, $4 per gallon gas that is so common in Europe for the last decade could have improved American fuel efficiency and prepared USA more for Peak Oil. Was this possible politically? I don't know and I don't want to start a political argument. There are other issues with $4 per gallon gas though: the governments that got used to high gas-tax revenues now will have to tighten their belts unless they want to see $6-10 per gallon gas in Europe... Jurgis - did Europeans do better?

To: Bearcatbob who wrote (662)	6/1/2005 4:53:47 AM
From: kryptonic6	Respond to of 1183

some blame Bush for this. I submit to you it is the entire political class. This is absolutely correct...it is absurd to blame any one person/party for the failure of planning that has spanned decades. Many people are too absorbed in their own political persuasion to realize that we are all to blame. The solutions to Peak Oil are many and at hand. They only take political will to implement. I highly recommend Richard Heinberg's "Powerdown: Options and Actions for a Post-Carbon World" for analysis of this topic. Jesse

To: Bearcatbob who wrote (662)	6/1/2005 3:00:58 PM
From: Mahatmabenfoo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1183

> The author states that the problem is in the transistion - > not the long term > The solutions to Peak Oil are many and at hand. They only > take political will to implement. I agree with all that. But having not worked on the transition while we had the time, is a transition even possible? That is the risk -- and it benefits no one. Not oil companies, not power companies, not anyone's gene pool, not even Christians welcoming the apocalypse. In a worst case (as I understand it, and I admittedly came late to this topic) the Saudi's have forced oil production to give the illusion that we have not peaked -- but we really peaked years ago. If that's true, when oil shortfalls start, they start hard: 14% per year instead of (say) 2%. That leaves no money for building windmills or nuclear plants or bicycles; let alone reconstructing railroads and small towns and researching fusion. However we can all get a government issue ukulele, and start local street choirs and be happy. I intend to start campaigning on that platform, but only after the grid collapses so no one will hear about it. - Charles