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To: Road Walker who wrote (235264)	6/1/2005 3:20:15 PM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573211

John, In a battle situation, certainly they should be killed. If they are captured and brought to US soil give them a trial in US courts. If you can prove they committed a capital crime, sentence them to death. Aha, so you have arrived at my position. The harshest, yet realistic outcome that is possible under Bush (depending on if courts allow military trials or not). Under John Kerry / ACLU administration, none of that would have happened. That's why his claim (and you repeading the claim) that Al Qaeda should be killed was especially hollow and naive. FYI, it was just a week or so campaign consultants told him to sound tough on terrorism. You confused it actual position / conviction on the issue. Sound reasonable? Given the constraints the US operates under... Joe

To: Road Walker who wrote (235264)	6/1/2005 3:43:24 PM
From: RetiredNow	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573211

I don't know, John. One thing I've struggled with is whether or not non-U.S. citizens deserve to avail themselves of our legal system. My first inclination is to say that if you are caught fighting the U.S. in a war, that your release is simply a function of a negotiated agreement at the end of that war. For instance, during our fights with Germany and Japan, we held many detainees who we caught fighting us. Sometimes we'd negotiate prisoner swaps. In some cases, the remained in prison until a peace treaty was signed. So these terrorists are shit out of luck in my opinion. They haven't declared their reason for fighting the U.S., nor their end goal. They don't have a governmental body with which to negotiate. So in the best of circumstances, I'd say hold them for 2-3 years and then negotiate extradition to their country of birth. In the worst of cases, I'd hold them indefinitely with no trial. We have plenty of trials of American citizens going on in our legal system that is putting a strain on the system. We don't need dead-ender terrorists clogging it up. Look at Mousawi. Would you want several thousand Mousawi trials all costing millions of dollars each? I know you are very cost conscious when it comes to taxpayers money. You should think about the cost of affording enemies of the U.S. a trial in our legal system.