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To: Grainne who wrote (105560)	6/2/2005 8:03:46 AM
From: JeffA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

For example, how many people here still believe that genetically modified crops are the answer to hunger in the world? I do. What do you think would be better? Just follow your own rules and apply them to yourself. Nothing more, nothing less. BTW, we did not "gang up" on Ionesco. She was preaching to a choir who KNEW a heckuva lot more FACTS than she did and she got called on the carpet and she did not like it. Had your noble intentions for the thread been met, she would have learned something and not got defensive and tried to back an untenable position. OK? That's how I saw it.

To: Grainne who wrote (105560)	6/3/2005 12:31:11 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

If you read what I said, I was saying that The Philosopher's POSTS were ignorant, biased, arrogant and hostile. Thank you for clarifying that. I understand from this that it is inappropriate on this board to criticize an individual, but that ad postitum (as opposed to ad hominum) attacks are permitted. I appreciate and will do my best to comply with this distinction.

To: Grainne who wrote (105560)	6/3/2005 12:38:26 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

For example, how many people here still believe that genetically modified crops are the answer to hunger in the world? I'm not sure you and I use the term "genetically modified" the same way. But the way I use it, which includes cross-pollination (which is a form of genetic modification) and a range of other techniques to make plants more productive and more amenable to storage and shipment, i do believe that these techniques, while not the answer to hunger in the world, are part of the answer. Humans have been manipulating the genetic makeup of their crops almost since there have been crops. Most of the plants we eat today -- almost all our varieties of apples, grapes, and other fruits, for example -- have been modified by mankind from what nature initially produced. Keep in mind that whenever you produce a different species of a plant, you have modified its genes. So, for example, crossing one kind of apple with another, whether by cross-pollination or by gene splicing, is genetic modification. The techniques of genetic modification have changed, and it may be that you are only objecting to certain modern practices such as gene splicing, but the principle of genetic modification and the desire by man to change the genetic makeup of plants from what nature originally produced is ancient and, IMO, very worthwhile.