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To: TigerPaw who wrote (235703)	6/3/2005 5:07:04 PM
From: longnshort	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571317

I'd rather be a pagan

To: TigerPaw who wrote (235703)	6/3/2005 7:47:47 PM
From: neolib	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571317

I don't think that Budhists and Shinto's actually believe in the same kind of god (as a distinct concious entity) as the Pagans or Monotheists. I'm too familiar with them and suspect that there are different sects in different countries. Buddhists = Atheists (no god) Jew, Christian & Muslim = Monotheists (one god) Pagans = Polytheists (many gods) Most Christians accept the Trinity which some view as polytheistic, hence a pagan heresy (Jews are strictly Monotheists, as are Muslims, but the latter accept Christ as a prophet). The Jehovah’s Witness faith (one of a number of American Religions) is largely based on that distinction, IIRC. Another American Religion, Mormonism, believes that people become gods themselves, therefor it is a very polytheistic religion. The ancient Jewish people are largely the inventors of Monotheism, it was their one outstanding intellectual endeavour. Their intellectual efforts in science, technology and government were well eclipsed by ancient Egypt, Babylon, Greece & Rome. But today, 2000+ years later, modern society stands on the shoulders of Greece & Rome for our civil & scientific roots, and monotheism for religion.

To: TigerPaw who wrote (235703)	6/4/2005 4:51:07 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571317

Greece's Orthodox Church puts out a fatwa on an art exhibition: Curator on trial for 'obscene' art By Elinda Labropoulou in Athens 04 June 2005 Greece's religious right is on a collision course with the art establishment after a prominent curator was put on trial under blasphemy laws for staging a show which Orthodox clerics said was "obscene". Christos Ioakimidis, who curated the show Outlook in the run-up to last summer's Olympics, provoked outrage in religious circles by displaying a work featuring, among other things, a cross and male genitalia. Mr Ioakimidis was called to appear in court yesterday on charges of insulting public sentiment and the Orthodox Church, following a complaint by a far-right politician. The row is deeply embarrassing for Greek authorities who set up Outlook, the largest modern art show the country had staged, to shake off its image as a backwater of contemporary culture. After opening in October 2003 the show received mixed reviews but initially no complaints. That changed when George Karatzaferis, leader of a right-wing extremist party, paid it a visit. A notorious self-publicist, he whipped up a storm of indignation after taking offence at a painting, titled Dry Sin [], by a Belgian artist, Thierry de Cordier. The canvas, featuring a wooden cross, a penis and semen, was denounced by Mr Karatzaferis as the most "obscene, immoral and shameless" painting he had ever seen. He demanded its removal and called for an inquiry into whether an offence had occurred under Greece's antiquated blasphemy laws, which allow prosecution if a work has "offended people's religious sentiments". A number of church activists and conservative politicians, including a former leader of the governing conservative party gave their support. Within days a woman attacked another avant-garde work at the show, slashing it with a knife. Protesters began picketing the entrance. To the horror of Athens' art world, Mr Ioakimidis opted to defuse the situation by withdrawing Dry Sin on the order of the culture ministry. The decision outraged artists and rights activists who said it threatened freedom of expression. Mr Ioakimidis said he had authorised removal of the painting to protect the exhibition from "the wrong kind of publicity". The wheels of the Greek justice system kept grinding until, 17 months later, a judge decided there was a case to answer and called the curator to court. The latest blasphemy charges have added to concerns at the influence exerted on the political and legal establishments by the conservative Greek Church - which is itself mired in a sex and corruption scandal. The blasphemy case is likely to be decided by early next year. news.independent.co.uk [] Corpus delicti: tovima.dolnet.gr If you happen to be a fan of Michael Jackson, you might want to forward the whole story to the Santa Barbara court... in a last-gasp attempt to annul Michael's trial --hey, that's a flagrant breach of the Judge's ruling!! Clue: Judge: Jurors will not see images of Michael Jackson's penis By Lisa Sweetingham Court TV SANTA MARIA, Calif. — The judge in Michael Jackson's child molestation trial ruled Thursday against giving jurors a peek at images of the King of Pop's private parts. "I'm going to deny the request to bring in the evidence of the blemished penis," Superior Court Judge Rodney Melville announced during a hearing Thursday morning outside the presence of jurors. The evidence included photographs of Jackson's anatomy shot during a search warrant in 1993, when the entertainer was facing allegations that he molested former Neverland sleepover guest Jordie Chandler. Chandler was 13 years old — the same age as Jackson's current accuser — when he claimed in an affidavit that Jackson sexually molested him. [...] courttv.com