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To: Dan B. who wrote (63379)	6/17/2005 2:39:27 PM
From: sea_biscuit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81568

There were at least a couple of documented terrorist training camps And they were in Kurdistan. Saddam couldn't even step in there because of the No Fly Zone restrictions.

To: Dan B. who wrote (63379)	6/17/2005 3:13:10 PM
From: sea_biscuit	Respond to of 81568

More "wonderful" news from Dumbya's "valley of peace" : 06/17/05 CENTCOM: TWO MARINES KILLED IN ACTION (confirmed) Two Marines assigned to 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force (Forward), were killed in action June 16 when their vehicle hit an improvised explosive device. The incident took place during combat operations near Ar Ramadi, Iraq. 06/17/05 AP: Roadside bomb kills two U.S. Marines in western Iraq A roadside bomb killed two U.S. Marines in western Iraq, the military said Friday. The attack on their vehicle occurred during combat operations Thursday near Ramadi. 06/17/05 bellaciao: US lied to Britain over use of napalm in Iraq war Yesterday’s disclosure led to calls by MPs for a full statement to the Commons and opened ministers to allegations that they held back the facts until after the general election. 06/17/05 AP: Third Nevada soldier in a week killed in Iraq The mother of Nevada Army National Guard Specialist Anthony Cometa says her worst fear was realized when her son was killed this week in southern Iraq. Cometa was killed yesterday (Thursday) in a vehicle crash in southern Iraq. 06/17/05 AP: Two people die in Iraq when suicide car bomber slams into fuel truck Iraq Two people are dead and six injured in Iraq after a suicide car bomber slammed into a loaded fuel tanker as it drove through Baghdad's eastern suburbs. Police say the car hit the tanker after it missed an Iraqi army patrol. 06/17/05 Reuters: US forces storm Iraq rebel stronghold The chief doctor at Qaim hospital, Hamdi al-Alusi, said six dead bodies had been brought to the morgue Friday. Also a modified U.S. Black Hawk helicopter, known as a Pave Low, made an "unscheduled landing" near Qusayba. 06/17/05 DoD Identifies Marine Casualty Pfc. Nathan B. Clemons, 20, of Winchester, Tenn., died June 14 from wounds sustained when an IED detonated near his vehicle while conducting combat operations against enemy forces near Ar Rutbah, Iraq. 06/17/05 Xinhuanet: 2 killed in car bomb outside Shiite mosque in Baghdad A car bomb went off outside a Shiite mosque in the Iraqi capital on Friday, killing two civilians and wounding four others, including a child, a witness told Xinhua. Two oil tankers were set ablaze while the mosque was not damaged in the attack. 06/17/05 Novinite: Injured Bulgarian Soldier's Condition "Critical The condition of the third soldier, who was wounded in the June 14 Iraq accident is critical, General Stoyan Tonev, who heads Bulgaria's Military Medical Academy, said Friday. 06/17/05 Cadillac News: Cadillac native injured in Iraq Brian Sayer had just entered the base when a mortar shell hit and sent shrapnel into his leg. "He will have four Purple Hearts and I believe that is enough," his wife wrote. 06/17/05 BBC: Bomb goes off at Baghdad mosque A car bomb has exploded outside a Shia mosque in Baghdad as people were emerging from Friday prayers, causing an unknown number of casualties. 06/17/05 AP: U.S. Launches Major Operation in West Iraq The U.S. military launched a major combat operation Friday, sending 1,000 Marines and Iraqi soldiers to hunt for insurgents and foreign fighters in a volatile western province straddling Syria. 06/17/05 KUNA: Baghdad, Tuz Khurmatu blasts, 12 Iraqis, 3 officers injured another blast in Tuz Khurmatu left 12 Iraqis injured, including three army officers, when a suicide bomber detonated his car upon the passing of an Iraqi Army patrol. 06/16/05 KRT: U.S. military charges soldier with murder in deaths of 2 officers A 37-year-old staff sergeant was charged in the deaths of two of his superior officers in the first alleged case of its kind in Iraq. 06/16/05 independent: US lied to Britain over use of napalm in Iraq war "The US confirmed to my officials that they had not used MK77s in Iraq at any time and this was the basis of my response to you," he told Mr Cohen. "I regret to say that I have since discovered that this is not the case and must now correct the position." 06/16/05 AP: U.S. Army Staff Sgt. Charged With Murder A U.S. Army staff sergeant was charged with murdering his two commanders last week at a base outside Baghdad, the military said Thursday in what is believed to be the first case of an American soldier in Iraq accused of killing his superiors. 06/16/05 TheGuardian: Gunmen take over Ramadi as bomb kills five marines Insurgents have taken over much of the Iraqi city of Ramadi and used it to launch attacks against US forces while terrorising the population with public beheadings. 06/16/05 repubblica: Italian military convoy ambushed near Nassiriya An Italian military convoy was ambushed yesterday (wednesday) near Nassiriya (50km north of) with improvised explosive device (IED) and small arms fire. No wounded between italian soldier. One of VM90 vehicle has been struck. 06/16/05 DoD Identifies Navy Casualty Petty Officer 2nd Class Cesar O. Baez, 37, of Pomona, Calif., died June 15, as a result of enemy small arms fire while conducting combat operations in al-Anbar province, Iraq. Baez was a Hospital Corpsman assigned to 2nd Marine Division. 06/16/05 DoD Identifies Army Casualty Sgt. Anthony G. Jones, 25, of Greenville, S.C., died June 14 in Baghdad, Iraq, where an IED detonated near his military vehicle. He was assigned to the 104th Transportation Company, 36th Engineer Group, 3rd Infantry Division. 06/16/05 CENTCOM: COURT-MARTIAL CHARGES PREFERRED AGAINST TASK FORCE LIBERTY SOLDIER The United States Government preferred charges against Staff Sgt. Alberto B. Martinez in the deaths of two Task Force Liberty Soldiers who died June 7 at Forward Operating Base Danger, near Tikrit, Iraq. 06/16/05 AP: Second contractor with Reno lawyer alleges Marine abuse in Iraq Peter Ginter learned what it was like to be a prisoner of war in combat training so he had an idea of what to expect when he was roughed up [and] stripped ... in Iraq. But the ex-Marine never imagined his captors would be U.S. troops. 06/16/05 DoD Identifies Army Casualty Pfc. Michael R. Hayes, 29, of Morgantown, Ky., died June 14 in Baghdad, Iraq, where a RPG hit his HMMWV while he was providing security cordon for an IED found earlier. He was assigned to the Army National Guard’s 617th Military Police Company. 06/16/05 Reuters: Iraq rebels kill 5 marines in blast Iraqi rebels killed five U.S. marines in a bomb attack in the city of Ramadi, the second time in a week an entire armoured Humvee crew has died there in what U.S. officers said on Thursday could be a new insurgent tactic. 06/16/05 Iraq Pipeline Watch: #241 June 15 - insurgents blew up a pipeline near Baghdad that transports crude oil between Bayji and Daura. 06/16/05 AP: PA Guard Members Headed To Iraq Some 22-hundred Pennsylvania Army National Guard members—the state’s largest deployment since the Korean War— are being sent to Iraq. 06/16/05 DoD Identifies Marine Casualties Cpl. Jesse Jaime, 22, of Henderson, Nev. and Cpl. Tyler S. Trovillion, 23, of Richardson, Texas died June 15 when their vehicle hit an improvised explosive device while conducting combat operations near Ar Ramadi. 06/16/05 DoD Identifies Marine Casualties Lance Cpl. Jonathan R. Flores, 18, of San Antonio, Texas and Lance Cpl. Dion M. Whitley, 21, of Los Angeles, Calif. died June 15 when their vehicle hit an improvised explosive device while conducting combat operations near Ar Ramadi. 06/16/05 AP: Morgantown Guardsman killed during fighting in Iraq Spc. Michael Ray Hayes, 29, of Morgantown, was killed in Iraq during a RPG. He was providing security around a possible IED near Baghdad on Tuesday when they were attacked. Hayes was attached to the 617th Military Police Company based in Richmond

To: Dan B. who wrote (63379)	6/17/2005 4:04:08 PM
From: sea_biscuit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

Second contractor alleges Marine abuse in Iraq By SCOTT SONNER ASSOCIATED PRESS 06/16/05 "Las Vegas Sun" - - RENO, Nev. (AP) - Peter Ginter learned what it was like to be a prisoner of war in combat training exercises so he had an idea of what to expect last month when he was roughed up, stripped and locked in a 6-by-8-foot cell in Iraq. But the ex-Marine never imagined his captors would be U.S. troops. And he never dreamed they would hand him a Koran and a prayer rug, and treat him like the enemy for the next 72 hours. "It's just unreal," said Ginter, 30, Colorado Springs, Colo., the latest to speak out among 16 American and three Iraqi security contractors who were detained for three days in a facility with insurgents after being accused of firing shots at U.S. troops near Fallujah. Ginter said he was kicked, his head bounced off the pavement and his testicle squeezed by a guard during his detention. "I was more worried about my life from the (U.S.) military than from the insurgents," he told The Associated Press late Wednesday. "It's like you are stepping out of reality and stepping into the `Twilight Zone,'" he said. "I can't sleep at night anymore. I keep thinking I hear the steel door slamming." Ginter arrived in Reno late Wednesday to meet with his lawyer, Mark Schopper, who also represents another of the detained contractors, Matt Raiche, 34, Dayton, Nev. Raiche leveled similar accusations of abuse by Marines when he returned to Nevada last week. Schopper said they're examining possible legal recourse. "The priority right now is to clear these men's names," he said. The Marines detained the contractors May 28 after they allegedly fired from trucks and SUVs on Iraqi civilian cars and U.S. forces in Fallujah, 40 miles west of Baghdad. They were released June 1, and no charges have been filed. The Marines have denied allegations of abuse. The contractors worked for Zapata Engineering based in Charlotte, N.C., which has a contract with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to manage an ammunition storage depot in Iraq and to collect and transport captured ammunition to the depot for destruction. Lt. Col. Dave Lapan, a spokesman for the Marines in Iraq, said the convoy was stopped and the contractors detained "because Marines witnessed them firing at or near civilian vehicles and at Marine positions." "We continue to investigate this matter, to include the contractors' actions leading up to this incident, the actions of our Marines, as well as the contractors' allegations of abuse," he said in an e-mail to the AP on Thursday. Company president Manuel Zapata has said the only shot fired by his workers was a warning blast after they noticed a vehicle following them. Ginter, who served eight years in the Marines, said he'd been through a couple of "SERE's" schools - Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape training - most recently at the U.S. Navy's remote training site in San Diego County, Calif. "You get captured and placed in a facility. You get thrown around so that if some actual insurgents get you, you know how you are going to be treated," Ginter said. "But you can quit at any time if you can't take it anymore. That's a lot different," he said. His first day in detention, he said a guard slammed him to the ground after he came out of a portable bathroom. "All of the sudden a big guy grabbed me and forced me to the ground. He kicked me in the right ankle. He started searching me. He ripped off my rosary beads from my wrist and my necklace (with a wooden cross)." "I said, `Sir, those are my religious items. It's my right to have those.' And he said shut ... up.'" "He emptied everything out of my pockets and he reached down, grabbed my testicle and squeezed it so hard I started getting really sick. "He bounced my head on the ground and told the girl with the dog, `If he moves, let the dog go.' "I kept thinking, these are Americans. I trust Americans. So I did what I was told." "It's bad enough when you've got to worry every day about insurgents passing fake IDs and driving car bombs into your convoy. Now I've got to worry about our own military, too?" he said. Lapan confirmed there was a military working dog and handler present "as a security measure before the individuals were transferred to the detention facility." "According to the handler and witnesses, the dog never got closer than 6-10 feet from the contractors, barked a few times, and sat docile at the handler's side the entire time," Lapan said Thursday. "The contract personnel were treated professionally and appropriately the entire time they were in the custody of military personnel. That a potentially dangerous situation was resolved without death or injury to anyone is a testament to the professionalism and skill of our Marines," he said. © 1996 - 2005 Las Vegas Sun, Inc