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To: Keith Feral who wrote (164427)6/19/2005 10:45:09 AM
From: Suma  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Who was it that stuck his finger in the hornet's nest and let all this stuff erupt. Who did it illegally... according to the Downing Street Tape....

There is a saying that Janet Reno used AFTER Waco. The Buck stops here... Bush is the buck..
Who else is there to attack and blame ?



To: Keith Feral who wrote (164427)9/8/2005 9:06:25 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
The tribal and ethnic animosities pervading this country and legion..

But let's not excuse the role that Iran has played in stirring up trouble. They were primarily responsible for supporting Muqtada Al Sadr in Najaf last year and many of their "revolutionary guards" participated in that battle.

But Sadr has fallen out of favor, IMO and maybe re-calculating his options as Iraq's government is perceived more and more as a pawn of the Persian Iranians. He may attempt to present himself as an Arab Iraqi nationalist.. And that is something the Sunnis could give tacit support to.. "He may be a Shi'ite bastard, but at least he's Arab"..

I have a personal theory.. and one that get's scoffed at by some of my associates. I believe Iran is intimately involved in providing support to whichever faction can maintain instability in Iraq (with the aim of embarrassing the US and forcing a humuliating withdrawal). But I don't have a lot of evidence that isn't circumstantial (or publicly available).

My bottom line opinion is that, were I an Iranian power meister, it's what I would do.. Provide support to someone who might be my ideological enemy, but can assist me in creating instability in Iraq that I can gradually exploit to my own benefit.

After all, it worked pretty well for the Pakistanis as they created the circumstances for the Russian humiliation in Afghanistan..

But do I think we're facing failure? NO.. just that we need to open our eyes a bit wider to the potential Machiavellian game being played out over here.

No neighboring government to Iraq wants democracy to succeed. They all have a vested interest in seeing Iraq fall back into the grasp of a dictator, or Islamic regime, that might justify their own non-democratic political systems.

Hawk