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To: Lane3 who wrote (121026)	6/21/2005 7:23:20 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793725

Assuming the report is true there is also the question - Was the abuse 1 - Isolated incidents that are not supported by policy, regulation, or the chain of command, and that will result in punishment if the perps can be ID'd and the charges proven. 2 - A sign of a systematic breakdown in the local chain of command where junior people can abuse prisoners and feel they can get away with it. 3 - Middle ranking or even moderately senior officers issuing illegal orders to abuse prisoners, on their own initiative. 4 - Similar to 3 but more wide spread. It would be considered a systematic breakdown in a larger chain of command, leading to wide spread abuse. or 5 - Officially authorized abuse/interrogation/torture from the highest levels of the military or from civilian leadership in the Pentagon or the White House. I don't think it is 4 or 5, and of course any of these numbers assume the abuse reported actually occurred. Absent that assumption the truth could also be. A - The reported abuse simply didn't occur B - Abuse along those lines occurred but was exaggerated in the report. Tim Edit - I also agree with another poster on this thread who pointed out that abuse in prison is very common, and that Gitmo may well be less abusive than the average prison either worldwide or in the US, even if this particular report of abuse is true. Which doesn't excuse the abuse, but does put it in perspective.