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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (65288)	6/21/2005 1:26:05 PM
From: Slagle	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Maurice Re: "quaint as duels with pistols" I have essays from 150 years ago that made the case for the benefits of dueling which was still practiced here in the American South even after the Civil War on occasion. The gist of the argument was that in places where the threat of the duel had been removed that men were much more querelous and inconsiderate of one another. The very existence of the institution of dueling kept gentlemanly standards and manners high. The argument has some merit. Slagle

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (65288)	6/21/2005 2:31:09 PM
From: shades	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Suddenly, social security for oldies will be very fully funded. The ratio of young to old will go from 2:1 to 10:1 in two years. Hey presto, no more population woes. It will cut the price of houses too as a LOT will be empty and on the market. I see this in some areas already, empty buildings and homes - in west palm beach they had a law to tear these things down to keep the city "beautified" but in south georgia there are lots of overrun properties uglyfying the countryside. I dont see a 10:1 ratio coming back though, that sounds like fantasy - where do you get that silly idea?

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (65288)	6/21/2005 3:01:16 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Respond to of 74559

Thanks for that "cup half full" version of where we are headed. :)

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (65288)	6/21/2005 4:52:57 PM
From: maceng2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Watched an excellent documentary of the gang wars in NZ. I was amazed what an open war it is. I just looked and saw what the Mongrels thought and did (plus rival gangs) and just said to myself they wouldn't last 10 seconds in the UK. The police state would have them stitched up in no time. However maybe the NZ authorities are playing the game better then we in the UK do. No, we have much worse scheming violent criminals here. Looks like we only sent the good guys (by comparison) to Australia. (not that it is part of NZ of course) The French remain though. Spent a lot of time, more then others, exploding nuclear weapons in the South Pacific. I like watching TV documentary history.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (65288)	6/21/2005 6:22:39 PM
From: smolejv@gmx.net	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

>>It seems to me that the USA is less militaristic than ever, but with higher military spending<< Looks to me like a military / armed version of SUV: moving at 75 mph, fully armed, objectively speaking VERY dangerous (check the Vietnam tyre marks) and J6P and his family having a ride ("Me Don, I mean Tarzan. You Jane, feel safe" "er, well, I...") btw guzzling up (similar to gas) the same amount of ...it... you know the green stuff that's so easy to print ... as the sum of next 20 countries worldwide. The world lending US 5 gazzilions of that stuff per day. US; they're so .... vibrant, so future oriented, so irresistible, so HUGE, so (easy does it, keep your hands up show your palms, good boy) - well, have some more of that stuff. Please. I dont need it. Yeah, it's my shoe box,but go ahead. It's our common future, J6P: One pizza slice for China. One slice for ME. One slice off the table (...leave it for the cleaners....) Oh, dont forget the DoD, home security. (Baby boomers? Terminate them.) regs dj