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To: Keith Feral who wrote (164680)6/23/2005 6:03:39 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Bush was certainly VERY friendly the the old sheik that visited him at Crawford. Holding hands, kissing him on both cheeks. He did everything but blow him.

I think we probably agree that we need to free ourselves from a dependency on foreign resources of all kinds. We're addicted to oil from regeimes we don't agree with and cheap goods bought on credit and cheap labor from offshore. None of it is good for American citizens. American citizens don't run the government anymore, American corporations do.



To: Keith Feral who wrote (164680)6/23/2005 9:15:43 PM
From: Win Smith  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Um. Just for the sake of argument, if we go with your particular line of thought, why in the world was a war in Iraq W's #1 priority? Is it like he just didn't know what was going on in Saudi Arabia? Or did he think his fearsome demonstration in Iraq would intimidate the Saudis into cleaning up their hotheads?

Not that your analysis holds up that well. The Saudis certainly aren't democratic, but the religious hotheads are as much the democratic opposition there as they are a tool of the state. It's sort of a mess, but the evidence in Iraq indicates that W's brilliant latter day great gamers would probably make quite a bigger mess of it if they tried their usual subtle persuasion act there.

As a bonus, there's the added irony that on of Bin Laden's stated goals at the outset was to get US forces out of Saudi, and now that they've left, it's trumpeted as a W triumph by certain elements of W's true believer set.