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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (68219)	6/30/2005 11:52:04 PM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 77400

Assuming materials can be found to manufacture them, where will they be put? Wind turbines could be placed on the continental shelf, some 20-30 miles offshore. There is a steady wind and minimal impact either visual, auditory, or on birds. TP

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (68219)	7/1/2005 9:56:30 AM
From: RetiredNow	Respond to of 77400

I've been reading about plug in hybrids. I think this may be a real bridge technology and it's available today. Unfortunately, I just found out that they don't sell Honda GX's nor the home refuelers in my state. So that option is out. So it looks like it's a hybrid for me. Maybe I'll convert it to a plug in after Toyota's warranty runs out.

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (68219)	7/5/2005 2:35:09 PM
From: pfalk	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 77400

You are absolutely correct about wind not being able to meet all our electricity demands, but the situation isn't quite so bleak. By your own numbers, the consumption is something like 2 million times more than we can get from one wind turbine. However - in Alta Mont Pass in California, alone there are about 5000 turbines. All we "need" is 500 "Alta Mont's" spread over the US. That's still unrealistic, but we shouldn't forget that we still have hydroelectric power plants. If you add solar power in those areas where we have the greatest need for air conditioning (delivers peak output when your cooling demands are the highest) then you can see that while this can't solve all of our needs, it could, indeed, solve a significant part of the problem. Something like 20% - 25% of our total demand, and upwards of 50% of our peak demand (because wind and solar delivers the most in the hot afternoons, when air-conditioning demands peak). P.S. I vote to keep mindmeld too! P