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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (239511)7/1/2005 9:44:24 AM
From: SilentZ  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1571747
 
>About 50 million dead thanks to communism, and counting.

But is it because of anything inherent to communism?

And how many Native Americans are dead because of us?

-Z



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (239511)7/1/2005 12:54:02 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571747
 
Comrade Jaeger, the happy truth is that no one in the world wants communism anymore. East Europe doesn't want it, not even Russia wants it, and China will become the next superpower if only they could shake the shackles of communism. North Korea is falling apart while South Korea is thriving. Vietnam is trying to shake off the legacy of Ho Chih Minh and join the modern world, while Taiwan and Hong Kong remain capitalist jewels within Asia. And don't forget about Japan, either.

And so neoChristian, are you supportive now of polygamy? Its hard to keep up with all the changes you are making to your church...starting wars, killing people, lying, etc. What with JC think? Never mind.......he was too liberal for you guys.

Communism is the opium of Marxists like yourself, so keep smoking. About 50 million dead thanks to communism, and counting.

The only comrades aka Soviets on this thread are the Bushies.

ted



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (239511)7/2/2005 4:33:12 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571747
 
Re: Communism is the opium of Marxists like yourself, so keep smoking.

Well, I see that "communism" is a mere catchword to you... A meaningless, if evil, notion you sling at your opponents.

Let's just examine the basic tenets of Communism: production of goods and services are to be planned and initiated by the government/state, if necessary, over quinquennial spans... The corporations, enterprises, shopping malls/retailers, and professionals that must carry out the state-planned production(s) are not privately owned but belong to the citizenry as a whole... A by-product of such a centralized economy is that out-and-out competition and cutthroat rivalry between producers/firms are ruled out --which doesn't mean that healthy emulation is not happening between producers of similar goods/services...

Finally, at the political level, multipartism is forbidden on the basis that the only acceptable policy is the one that best furthers the country's overall/superior interests. But then again, it allows competing/diverging factions to vie with each other WITHIN the ideological ambit of the Party.

Sounds familiar? It should, because the above glib sketch of a Communist society actually fits (Y)OUR Capitalist world as well!

More and more economic sectors have been consolidated into oligopolies and monopolies through relentless waves of M&As in the 1980s and 1990s, to the point that competition has become an empty slogan. Be it the car industry, aircraft manufacturers (a Boeing/Airbus duopoly), retailing (Carrefour, Wal-Mart,...), the luxury biz (LVMH, Gucci, Ralf Lauren,...), the media (Time-Warner, Bertlesmann, Murdoch,...), the oil majors, etc., global multinationals are carving up their markets worldwide. The CEOs and Chairmen at the helms of these global "competitors" are not fighting each other to the death. Quite the contrary: they are regularly consulting each other, meeting at such posh venues as Davos, Bilderberg, and Boao...

Products that used to be rival offers by independent producers have been turned into mere brands of the same company. For instance, Volkswagen AG (Europe's #1 carmaker) owns VW, Rolls-Royce, Bentley, Skoda, Seat, Audi. Fiat Auto owns Fiat, Lancia, Alfa-Romeo, Ferrari, Maserati, IVECO,...

Now, what of the private ownership of these multinationals? Well, for all the capitalist propaganda about Bill Gates, Michael Dell and Rupert Murdoch, the overwhelming majority of large corporations somehow belong to... each other! The actual ownership of global banks, insurers, and large corporations is a maze of cross-participations, with the same people sitting on the boards of dozens of different companies...(*) The Japanese word for it is zaibatsu, the Korean is chaebol, the Belgian used to be "holding", former French PM Balladur coined the expression "noyau dur", etc. As for the privately-owned small- and medium-sized companies, some of them run by the same family for generations, what's their real "independence" when their lifeline depends on ONE or two big customers? They are mere corporate satellites of large monopsonies (including the state itself, the biggest customer for the construction sector, weapons manufacturers,...), they owed their "corporate independence" only to fiscal and/or labor rules that make it preferable for the larger company to outsource/farm out non-core activities to a retinue of "flexible" subcontractors...

As for the political analysis, we've all seen that most political disputes --especially in the US two-party system-- boil down to tweedledee and tweedledum... After all, that's why Kerry lost: on key issues such as the Iraq war and Iran, he proved no clear-cut alternative to Bush.

Hence my opinion that it's Western capitalism that is slowly but surely drifting towards Chinese corporate collectivism --not the other way around!!!

Gus

(*) I've dubbed it "technocratic property":
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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (239511)7/2/2005 4:59:41 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Respond to of 1571747
 
Re: About 50 million dead thanks to communism, and counting.

I'll highly recommend you my current read:

Hitler's Spy Chief
The Wilhelm Canaris Mystery

Book Review By Michael D Booker (May 2005)

Author: Richard Bassett


Publisher: Weidenfield & Nicholson
The Orion Publishing Group Ltd
Orion House
5 Upper Saint Martin’s Lane
London WC2H 9EA

ISBN: 0 297 84687 6
Published in 2005
UK Price: £20.00


Admiral William Canaris head of the Abwehr (the German Secret Service between 1935 and 1944, was described by his Russian opposite numbers as “the most dangerous intelligence man in the world!” However despite his high profile and most trusted position and originally being loyal to “the old Germany”, he gradually became disenchanted with Hitler’s Nazi regime and as evidence shows, he became involved in an aborted coup d’etat in 1938. As war broke out, it was his belief that Germany could not win and it is then, he commenced a “campaign from within” to sabotage Hitler’s war machine.

This unique volume - the first ever biography of Admiral William Canaris to be published in English, is based on original research by the author, who having spent a vast amount of time delving into both the British and German archives, tells the fascinating story of a most intriguing man, who was personally involved in a number of what many considered to be foolish acts during the Second World War. These included a secret meeting with the head of British Intelligence in Gibraltar in 1942 in attempt to bring about peace, to saving the lives of many Jews. As Canaris’s connections with Winston Churchill dated as far back as the Great War, he actually leaked the German invasion plans to Churchill and in a further attempt to delay the same invasion, he also overestimated the strength of British forces in reports back to Hitler!

Throughout the war, just one man - Reinhard Heydrich Chief of the SS Intelligence Service suspected Canaris and eventually threatened to tell Hitler of his exploits, however within a few weeks, Heydrich was assassinated by the British and Canaris lived another day. Canaris’s fate was eventually sealed in the aftermath of the 1944 plot to assassinate Hitler. He was arrested by the Nazis and executed in the last week of the war.

I enjoyed this excellent title immensely and am sure it will provide fascinating reading for those with a serious interest in military history. It includes superb photographs of the personalities involved, an organisational chart of the Abwehr as well as a detailed bibliography to assist with further reading.

britishwargraves.org.uk