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To: RetiredNow who wrote (239689)7/1/2005 5:16:48 PM
From: Taro  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573852
 
MM,

you forgot to account for the opinions and the pending vetos of the Russians and PRC. Very convenient for the French and thus the UN to hide behind that...

Taro



To: RetiredNow who wrote (239689)7/2/2005 12:33:35 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573852
 
The time for talk with Iran is over. This issue needs to go straight to the U.N. In addition, the IAEA should demand access to all suspect sites. If they are refused, a security council resolution should be passed to allow U.N. forces to blockade Iran interdict any shipments to Iran for inspection. The U.N. should also impose heavy economic sanctions on Iran. We pull out all the stops to make Iran feel pain, short of war. In another 5 years, they will be so impoverished that they will comply. If they don't, then they either learn to live in an impoverished state, their disgruntled youth foment a rebellion, or they decide they want to change their ways and rejoin the international community.

Should the UN do the same to Israel, as well as any other country suspected of having some nuclear weapons program?



To: RetiredNow who wrote (239689)7/2/2005 1:03:44 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573852
 
Very simple. The time for talk with Iran is over. This issue needs to go straight to the U.N. In addition, the IAEA should demand access to all suspect sites. If they are refused, a security council resolution should be passed to allow U.N. forces to blockade Iran interdict any shipments to Iran for inspection. The U.N. should also impose heavy economic sanctions on Iran. We pull out all the stops to make Iran feel pain, short of war. In another 5 years, they will be so impoverished that they will comply. If they don't, then they either learn to live in an impoverished state, their disgruntled youth foment a rebellion, or they decide they want to change their ways and rejoin the international community.

Fine. I am assuming then that we need to do this with Israel as well since you thought they might fire first. Right?

However, I don't think the Europeans or the liberals in this country have the stomach or the patience for it.

Nonsense. What liberals don't have any more patience for is the right's attitude. Park the attitude and the biases at the door and things will work much better.

This lack of spine among the Europeans and liberals is what pushes neocon thinkers into war. If they felt there was a viable alternative to war, then maybe they'd take that path.

Of course, war is of last resort. But in the case of Iraq, it was not the last resort........you and I both know that.

But when faced with a spineless UN and a Europe not willing to go the whole distance short of war, then war becomes an inevitability.

BS. You are making it up as you go along. Keep with the lies and you will get nowhere with us.

And if you think war with Iraq has been a disaster, wait until you see what war with Iran will be like.

LOL. You guys never learn your lessons.