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To: Moominoid who wrote (65913)7/4/2005 10:33:40 AM
From: shades  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Martha Stewart lied, I think she got off too easy, I would have opted for stripping her from ever running a company again and massive fines. My nieces use to try to cook like her and look up to her - what a pathetic role model. All that money and she still had to cheat. Greed and Fear - the 2 worst human emotions. Now this scrushy guy getting away too - and may go back and run healthsouth - this is a bad way to run corporate america.

Some guys at IBM embezzled 7 million one year, got caught, one of them was connected to gerstner somehow so no criminal charges - that was BS. It never made the news of course - many things there didn't - things that should have - but all these people I see pouring over the retail news that has been so filtered and diluted and packaged - its funny - hehe. I really think most people that don't work in the upper levels of power are very naive to what is really going on - I mean sure they all suspect there is some subterfuge - but from what I found at that fortune 5 company - it was far worse than your wildest dreams. It taught me how to learn to laugh while the titanic sinks - hehe.

As for the big conspiracy - when I hear all these mutual fund companies and brokerage houses all involved in the crimes and I know things are probably much worse than they found or reported on - I think Phil maybe has a good handle on things. He owned the largest land holding company in the USA - he is a VERY wealthy individual if that is true and certainly had a lot of connections. He set his daughter up to be a big real estate person in colorado - probably managing a lot of his lands. He had other large real estate guys *like don trump* on his show that he seemed to be chummy with from 20 years back. Slagle tells you he paints a good broad stroke - you don't believe this though - I wouldn't have either until I saw first hand some of the BS I did in the corporate world. As bad as that is, what I saw with gingrich and georgia politics and lawyers was FAR WORSE. I am amazed the amount of people that just buy into that ideaology that is so destructive long term.

But he could be a scam artist like so many others, probably is, selling seminars - that is definitely a red flag in my book. How many seminars do you see warren buffet or soros or the trump giving for 50 bucks a seat at the local holiday inn? And that he was a big infomercial guy - I just don't see how someone who owned the largest land holdings in the USA has time to hold a 50 dollar a seat seminar in tampa - it just doesn't add up.