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To: Elmer Phud who wrote (164412)	7/10/2005 1:52:19 PM
From: niceguy767	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

"Even though you're certain you've done no wrong, would you pay the $2 or drag your customers into court just to prove you were right?" I think I'd pay the fine. You see I don't think the court would appreciate seeing my customers showing up in court in INTC handcuffs and wearing INTC muzzles. just easier to pay the fine. once again your insane logic would prevail though;-)

To: Elmer Phud who wrote (164412)	7/10/2005 2:19:20 PM
From: eracer	Respond to of 275872

Consider this analogy. How can your following example be an analogy when it isn't analogous to the Intel/AMD situation? You got a parking ticket, even though there was no "no parking" sign. Yes, there was no "no parking" sign, but let's say the car was parked very close to an intersection where the curb was painted yellow to indicate "no parking", therefore a sign wasn't necessary to indicate "no parking". Wow, it's easy to make up analogies. Some of your best customers were in the car with you. It's a $2 ticket. Why $2? A win and restitution for AMD might be in the range of $3 billion. That is one month's revenue for Intel. That would be analogous to a $8,000+ parking fine for someone earning $100,000 a year. Most people would fight an $8,000 parking ticket whether they were guilty or not. You're certain you acted correctly but to fight the ticket you'd have to go to court and take your passengers(your customers) with you. Even though you're certain you've done no wrong, would you pay the $2 or drag your customers into court just to prove you were right? How about this instead: "You were certain you wouldn't get fined so heavily because you had parked illegally many times before, but never got fined. You wouldn't voluntarily bring your best customers to court who were with you in the vehicle, as they could provide evidence that you were guilty of the violation."

To: Elmer Phud who wrote (164412)	7/10/2005 2:20:40 PM
From: fastpathguru	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

If I could reasonably expect a $50,000,000.00 spinoff lawsuit that would use my nolo-contendre against me, yes, I would. fpg

To: Elmer Phud who wrote (164412)	7/10/2005 3:08:26 PM
From: Joe_P	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

I understand it wasn't over much money. (I think $55 million was the charge) As for publicity, it might have hurt them. If they went through with this, and were found innocent, it would have probably been enough to keep AMD from suing them. Even if Intel has done no wrong, AMD pointing the finger at them saying they have done wrong does change public perception nonetheless... I guess Intel didn't see what AMD was willing to do.

To: Elmer Phud who wrote (164412)	7/10/2005 7:53:11 PM
From: TGPTNDR	Respond to of 275872

Elmer, I've about quit responding to you but: Re: <Consider this analogy. You got a parking ticket, even though there was no "no parking" sign.> I'd suggest that what INTC got was a DWI. They chose to Nolo Contendere and pay the fine with the recogition that anybody harmed in the case hs free reign in court. Where I am the next DWI offence is an automatic jail term. Even so, I think Intc did the SMART thing. They were on the horns of a dilemma. They could have said: "I'm Guilty but repentant and won't do it again". Might have got them a lesser penalty. Or: I'm not guilty and taken their chances in court. Bzzing. Wrong answer. Or:, when neither horn looks advisable one throws sand in the Bulls eyes. "Nolo Contendere". Sand was the best option EVEN THOUGH it allows much room for individual law suits. Much less than "I plead Guilty" or found guilty. I, personally, would have liked to see the contest. I'm looking foreward to the ones coming up. -tgp

To: Elmer Phud who wrote (164412)	7/11/2005 2:06:21 AM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Elmer, Except, Intel has not been charged with a parking ticket, but with a violation of Japanese Antimonopoly act: The Japan Fair Trade Commission (JFTC), March 8, 2005, rendered a recommendation to a Japan-based company, Intel Kabushiki Kaisha (IJKK), a whollyowned subsidiary of Intel International (a wholly-owned subsidiary of Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA, USA). The recommendation requires IJKK to cease and desist its conducts which violate Section 3 of the Antimonopoly Act (Private Monopolization). The JFTC has been investigating since last April. jftc.go.jp Joe