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To: LindyBill who wrote (125055)7/13/2005 2:44:09 PM
From: Gut Trader  Respond to of 793840
 
Europe is fubar. The continent that brought the dark ages, sadistic royals, surfdom , witch trials, Spanish Inquisition, Napolean, Vlad the Impaler, Hitler , Stalin, Mussolini,WWI, WII, ethnic cleaning... can't honestly tell a freedom fighter from a terrorist. For all its history It has no moral center.

WilliamWallace@Braveheart.com



To: LindyBill who wrote (125055)7/14/2005 3:36:08 AM
From: KLP  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 793840
 
White House Let CIA Undermine Them

July 13, 2005




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RUSH: I want to grab a quick phone call from a friendly liberal from Indianapolis. Hello, Jeff, welcome to the program sir.

CALLER: Yes, I'm a liberal and I'm proud of it, I don't hide behind the term progressive. I say I'm a liberal. Now, this Karl Rove situation really shows the hypocrisy of the GOP and the right wing because you guys were all over Bill Clinton about everything you could possibly bring up on him, starting with Whitewater, starting with Travelgate, all the way up to Monica. But now when there's any impropriety about the GOP, all of a sudden the press is biased, Democrats are desperate, and everything else is going on. I mean, that's kind of strange. This shows how desperate the administration was to try to sell that war in Iraq.

RUSH: Now, Jeff, wait. Forget the previous stuff you said. That's what I was interested in, that this shows how desperate the administration was to sell this war in Iraq. I wanted to take your call here because I'm not going to agree with you, but I'm going to tell you without knowing it, that you've swerved into what is the central problem here. It's not what you think it is, but you're close. So do me a favor and listen to this, because this is the aspect of all this that needs to be pointed out. I'm not even talking about Clinton. To compare this to what happened to Clinton is irrelevant and not the point. This all goes back to Bush's State of the Union speech and what he said about Iraq seeking nuclear material in Africa, Niger. Remember this. It was true, the White House later apologized for saying it, and I do not to this day understand why, but it was true, the Brits confirmed it, they have never denied it, and that fact is all you need to know to illustrate the wanton lies told by Joseph Wilson.

The British stood behind their intel, and even later the Senate intelligence committee report concluded there was good reason to credit the Brits for the intel that Iraq had attempted to purchase yellow cake uranium from Niger.
But the administration panicked in the face of outright left-wing criticism and apologized for it. I guess it was still part of the new tone back then. I do not understand it. The guy who was in the middle of all of this, a guy named Steve Hadley, ended up getting promoted after he took the bullet for something that nobody should have taken a bullet over. I mean, the simple fact of the matter is that it was true, and yet the administration apologized for it, and that gave every enemy of the administration free rein to go out and say that the administration was wrong about it, and they lied about it, when in fact to this day it remains true. And this was back in the days when the administration was not fighting back on this kind of thing, they just said, "Okay, okay, okay, if you don't like that we'll take it out." I don't know whether you call it surrender or whatever. The Wilson trip debacle -- and this, Jeff, is -- you know, you talked about how eager the White House was to sell this war in Iraq. I want you to listen carefully here. Because Joe Wilson ending up getting the assignment to go to Niger to figure all this out, and then coming back and lying in an op-ed to the New York Times and anybody else he was speaking to about what he found over there, is one of the central problems this administration has.

As we told you yesterday, Joe Wilson got this gig via his wife. George Tenet, who ran the CIA, didn't even know. You have a rogue CIA here, and make no mistake about this,
during this period of time, the CIA is out to get Bush every bit as much as the state department had people there out to get Bush. I'm not saying Tenet, I'm saying career lifers in the CIA, and one of the reasons they were out to get Bush is there was a bunch of libs in there. The CIA never allows former agents to write books. This CIA did, allow some guy, what's his name? He's been all over television, Matthews show, writing books about how we're screwing up the war on terror, how we don't have a chance to win it. With his wife's recommendation, Wilson gets sent the over to Niger to come back and write a false description of what he learned and then continue to lie about it and become a hero of the American left. The CIA is summarily embarrassed because -- and they don't want there to be any connection between Al-Qaeda and Iraq, because they missed it. They don't want to look bad. So you've got a rogue CIA who is out to screw the sitting president -- I'm not saying the whole organization. You've got members in it and Wilson and his wife are part of this cabal, and the administration doesn't fight back against any of this. The administration goes ahead. Cheney didn't know that Wilson was part of this mission or that was authorized to go. Leave aside for a moment, folks, the fact that there was a connection between Al-Qaeda and Iraq and a connection between Iraq trying to get yellow cake uranium, leave aside the fact that it's legitimate, even necessary for the public to be informed about all this and that Wilson got the job because of his wife, not because he had any special expertise, the more important thing here is there's a pattern that the administration still does nothing about and namely that is the CIA between 2000 and 2004 was an out-of-control, politicized agency actively campaigning to defeat a sitting US president in the 2004 elections. And Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson are just a couple of members of it. And the administration sat back and didn't fight back because Bush is loyal to the government.


He's a president who takes it seriously, and he's not going to sit there and publicly fight back on these things because it will discredit government, and he's not going to do this. CIA, somebody there -- and it wasn't Tenet -- not only sent Wilson, then let him write an op-ed in the New York Times that was wrong and misleading, and they knew it was wrong and misleading. Then they allow this guy, this agent, to write his book, and that book leaked damaging half-truths about Iraq, the CIA was doing this as well, all these leaks on the front pages of the New York Times and the Washington Post, leaking a bunch of things, half-truths about Iraq, about how things weren't working out well there. And as I say, they continue to try to cover up the fact they missed the ties between Al-Qaeda and Iraq. Not over 9/11, just the ties, just the fact that there were ties. The CIA has publicly said they have no evidence. But there's plenty of evidence and it's been documented in a number of places. I mean, Frank Gaffney reported last week at National Review that the new National Intelligence Director that was the 9/11 Commission's brilliant idea with John Negroponte's pals from the Foreign Service, it's just the same bunch of people, the state department having been second only to the CIA in doing all it could to undermine Bush's foreign policy, and yet the thing that amazes me is the administration apparently lets all this go on.

We have talked about this on this program for the longest time. Why apologize for something that you said that was true in the State of the Union? What is it with all these rogue CIA people, this one guy writing books, why not fight back against Wilson, why not publicly get out there and say that he's writing lies about what he found in Niger? I said yesterday, a lot of people are getting tired of carrying this administration's water, folks, and this is just another example of this.

So Jeff in Indianapolis, while you sit there and think that the administration went out of its way and what you're watching here is evidence and proof that the administration was desperate to sell its position in Iraq, I'm here to tell you this administration's position and policy in Iraq was actively being undermined, and they knew it by other agencies of the government, and they don't do anything to stop it. And Joe Wilson is just part of this and his wife, Valerie Plame, is just part of this. And now look where it gets them, for not fighting back and not setting the record straight, apologizing for all this, now we've got this whole notion that the press and a whole bunch of people believe that Wilson told the truth when he came back and said there's nothing to this story, Iraq never did try to buy yellow cake uranium from Niger. The Brits to this day say their report is true and stand by it. Wilson did lie about it. Most people think he was telling the truth so most people like you, Jeff, think the president totally lied and made things up because that's what's been planted by people who don't want the president to succeed and the administration has just sat around while a whole lot of this has gone on and it has not been challenged. You know, it's just frustrating, folks, some of this stuff is just literally frustrating and that's why I'm glad that Jeff called because that was the perfect point to use this information or this belief of mine as I just explained it to you to bounce off of. Because it's just the opposite.

The administration wasn't doing all it could to make clear the reasons for this. The administration has not even sufficiently stood up for itself to make the case that there was an Al-Qaeda/Iraq connection, not Saddam and 9/11, now, don't misunderstand me here, but they haven't stood up and even backed that up, even though they know it to be true. And don't ask me to tell you why. I can only speculate that Bush, as I said earlier, is just uncomfortable with anything he would say in public that would bring disrespect or something similar to the whole government, and he's the president, he's the executive. He runs the thing. So there's obviously a number of considerations. But it's now come to this. Because of all these things that were allowed to stand which are not true, we have all this attention now focused on Rove, and it's a giant distraction. I know some of you are going to say, "Well, hey, Rush, you know, this is actually kind of brilliant. It's a Rove-a-dope, Bush is roping them in while he's got some other plan going on somewhere else down the line." Could well be. But the reason it's frustrating, we all know who the left is, we all know how they operate and we would think the White House would, too, and shut it down and beat it into the ground when it's obviously called for and necessary.


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RUSH: Let me just open the frustration floodgates, all right? The Senate intelligence committee, even with a bunch of Democrats on that committee, came to the strong conclusion that Joe Wilson lied, particularly when he claimed that his wife had nothing to do with his being sent to Niger and lied about his report in Niger. Now, if a bipartisan Senate committee could do that, how in the world can the Department of Justice not do it and not figure it out? If the Department of Justice, if somebody in the administration had simply revealed how politicized and fraudulent the whole Wilson trip was, at the preliminary investigation stage, there would have been no reason to have an independent prosecutor delve into how Plame's status got leaked. And even if there is a technical violation of the law, which probably did not happen, that would have been vastly outweighed by how outrageous the whole Wilson-to-Niger scheme was. Yeah, the Democrats would have screamed for a week or two, "this is a great public servant and his wife, how can you dare slam him, he went over there and he risked his life, he came back and he..." Yeah, he lied about it, he lied through his teeth about it, he's a Kerry supporter, he's a Kerry contributor.

What in the world is this guy going over there to file this report in the first place, when the vice president doesn't know he's going, and when Tenet doesn't know he's going? How does the guy end up in Niger, how does a Democrat Kerry supporter end up with the opportunity to write this BS report which undermines the whole Bush Iraq war policy? And then to put icing on the cake, he comes back and gets this investigation started by acting outraged that his wife's name has been made public? What's the real crime here? What's the real scandal here? The real scandal here is that a lying sack of you-know-what Kerry supporter, anti-Bush guy has been lionized and made a big hero by the opposition party, the mainstream press and the Democrats. And they know he's lying, they know that he is the one who was sent over there by his wife. They know his report was a bunch of BS. They know all this but it doesn't matter because they've got their sights set on Bush via Rove. I don't know the specifics beyond any more of this than what I've mentioned, but this just smelled for the longest, longest time, and there's nobody that I can remember in the administration who's stepped forward to defend themselves or further to attack the credibility of their critics making these kinds of outrageous statements based on lies and now they find themselves where they are. Here's Mark in Charlottesville, Virginia, grab you quickly here before we have to go to the break. Welcome, sir.

CALLER: Hey, Rush, glad to talk to you.

RUSH: Thank you.

CALLER: I'd like to remind you that liberals have been doing this stuff for so long. It's not a big deal. You're saying it's like their last desperate attempt or whatever, but think about Robert Bork, think about Dan Quayle, George Bush the first, I even heard Bob Woodward on Hardball talking about how he wanted to impeach Reagan over Iran Contra. I really don't think it's anything new.

RUSH: That's the point, it is nothing new, but they're not getting away with it anymore. They got away with it with Bork, they got away with it with Quayle, they got away with a bunch of things because there was no alternative media. When I describe their last stand, I'm not saying if they don't survive this they're history, I'm not saying that at all. I'm talking about this is the second-to-last or the last nail in the coffin that's going to forever cement their loss of dominant influence, of monopolistic influence over the American news cycle and dissemination of information. And they're doing it to themselves largely. I would love to take a lot of credit for this, as would a lot of people in the new alternative media. But with they, Democrats and libs behaving as they are, they are showing themselves ever more so every day just who they really are to people, and it's a surprise to a lot of people. Why do you think more and more people are not identifying themselves as liberals and taking shelter under this so-called term of moderate? Because they're embarrassing even old line Democrats with who they have become now. Theirs is not the party or movement of inspiration, building a majority, and this kind of behavior they're engaged in now is just going to sink 'em even further into irrelevance.

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(WSJ: Karl Rove is the real whistleblower in the Plame kerfuffle)
(NYDN: Michael Goodwin: Civil War, D.C.-style)
(NY Times: A Few Thoughts on Karl Rove)

Background on Plamegate Outside the Media Template...
(NY Daily News, Michael Goodwin: Civil War, D.C.-Style)
(Lawyer: Cooper “Burned” Karl Rove --Byron York)
(NewsMax: Lawyers Who Wrote the Law Say Plame Leak Not Illegal)
(Wall Street Journal: Karl Rove, Whistleblower)
(AHN: Special Prosecutor; "Rove Not Target of Investigation")
(NewsMax: Prosecutor: Karl Rove NOT Target of Probe)
(RNC Chairman Ken Mehlman Statement On The Democrat Attacks Of Karl Rove)
(NY Times: Senator Leahy (D-VT) Leaked Report of Panel -07.29.87)
(John Podhoretz: Maybe Judith Miller was the leak?)
(John Podhoretz: Scandal Implosion)
(American Spectator: Treasure Rove. Big press is biting off its nose to spite Karl Rove)
(NewsMax: Valerie Plame vs Juanita Broaddrick?)
(Joe Wilson Names His Wife in His Own Online Biography!)
(The American Spectator: nothing to offer this side of Judith Miller and Karl Rove)
(TAS: Big press is biting off its nose to spite Karl Rove)

Joe Wilson's Uranium-Not–Sought-in-Africa Lie Facts...
(Washinton Post: Plame's Input Is Cited on Niger Mission)
(Slate: Plame's Lame Game - Christopher Hitchens)
(Weekly Standard: Four Facts and Five Conclusions)
(NewsMax: Novak: Wilson's Wife Not a Covert CIA Agent)
(WSJ: The End of the Plame Kerfuffle!)
(WS: Additional Views. What did Rockefeller say back in 2002? - Stephen F. Hayes)
(NRO: Exposed and Discredited, Joe Wilson Might Consider Going Back)

Facts on Saddam's Links to Al-Qaeda...
(Daily Times: Iraqi PM: "Saddam Hussein had link with Al Qaeda")
(The Weekly Standard: The Clinton View of Iraq-al Qaeda Ties)
TCS: The Iraq -- Al Qaeda Connections
(Weekly Standard: The Clinton View of Iraq-al Qaeda Ties)
(National Review: Iraq & al Qaeda -- 9/11 Commission raises more questions)
(Washington Times: Iraq-al Qaeda link comes in focus)
(Global Security.org: Salman Pak -- Iraq Terrorist Training Facilities)
(Putin Warning)
(Frontpagemag.com: More Connections Between Saddam and Osama)