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To: Dale Baker who wrote (1824)	7/19/2005 12:49:35 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542054

In terms of how they tick I think this might be a good place to start: Message 21508940

To: Dale Baker who wrote (1824)	7/19/2005 1:28:23 PM
From: X Y Zebra	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542054

Nothing we write or that he wrote will change what makes the actual bombers tick. -roflmao... tick.. tack... tick... tack... KABOOOOOOOOMM ! da BOMB, THAT is what makes them 'tick' [and balst] besides that.... WHO CARES !!!!! all is relevant is that they are criminals and psychos, as such, they must be stopped.... if there are people out there wanting to analyze their sick skull, so be it... but the relevant part is.... THEY MUST BE STOPPED NOW. no more... no less...

To: Dale Baker who wrote (1824)	7/19/2005 2:13:56 PM
From: MulhollandDrive	Respond to of 542054

I am saying that Hitchens' absolute declarations on what constitutes a legitimate motive has no meaning or impact outside his own piece well i certainly cannot ascribe to mr. hitchen's piece the level of 'impact' outside his own piece, but the fact is that his piece just so happens to align with the two current heads of state (bush/blair) who are the spear carriers on the war against the jihadists... We shall track down those responsible. States that shelter them will know no peace. Communities that shelter them do not take forever to discover their mistake. And their sordid love of death is as nothing compared to our love of London, which we will defend as always, and which will survive this with ease. this is almost verbatim of the 'bush doctrine' that was defined in his speech immediately after 9/11 If you look at the history of Al Qaeda attacks you will find plenty of western countries with evil, sinful practices that weren't attacked. The pre-Iraq attacks in the US and its allies were typically explained by the U.S. policy in Israel or Saudi Arabia. still waiting for the common denominator of nations under attack, dale... keep trying, but buried within here is a recently written 'clue' Message 21516877 The Van Gogh killing was a messy combination of a loonie individual who professed political motives. But how many similar attacks have happened in Amsterdam, home of sex and drugs for everyone who wants them? I lived there for two years from 2002-2004 and never heard of one. It's like saying that Tim McVeigh's act of terror means that all conservative white men are implacable enemies of American democracy because some of them have perceived grievances. A few crazy rightwingers thought they had a reason to kill innocents in a government building. The rest of us just thought they were psychos so how is the perpetrator of the van gogh killing any more 'looney' or different than any other garden variety jihadist flying planes into towers, killing children waiting in line for candy in baghdad, exploding night clubs in bali, bombing embassies in kenya, attacking parliament in india, bombing churches in pakistan, casablanca....more bombs in tunisia....more child killing in beslan, russia, how about jakarta, indonesia.... the list goes on what 'policy' was the jihadist attacking in those countries? and this: But how many similar attacks have happened in Amsterdam, home of sex and drugs for everyone who wants them? I lived there for two years from 2002-2004 and never heard of one what does 'home of sex and drugs' have to do with the fact that amsterdam hadn't had a jihadist attack until the killing of van gogh... does salman rushdie ring a bell with you? was the fatwa declared against him the work of a 'loonie individual' or instead was the template being set In the name of God Almighty. There is only one God, to whom we shall all return. I would like to inform all intrepid Muslims in the world that the author of the book entitled The Satanic Verses, which has been compiled, printed, and published in opposition to Islam, the Prophet, and the Qur’an, as well as those publishers who were aware of its contents, have been sentenced to death. I call on all zealous Muslims to execute them quickly, wherever they find them, so that no one will dare insult the Islamic sanctions. Whoever is killed on this path will be regarded as a martyr, God willing. In addition, anyone who has access to the author of the book, but does not possess the power to execute him, should refer him to the people so that he may be punished for his actions. May God’s blessing be on you all. Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini. we all know that khomeini was a loonie, but look at all the loonie followers he has! en.wikipedia.org