To: Greg or e who wrote (21655 ) 7/26/2005 4:22:54 AM From: zonder Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931 Try informing yourself about this debate from other sources than religious websites, and you will see Pro-abortionists, though invited to do so, failed to produce even a single expert witness who would specifically testify that life begins at any point other than conception or implantation As I said before (are you listening???), nobody is contesting that a fertilized egg is "alive". You are beating up a straw man, and so are these fundamental religious websites you quote from. The vegetables you eat are also "alive" and yet that does not get you screaming bloody murder. Why? Because they are not "human beings", with inalienable rights to life, freedom, happiness, etc etc. Whenever you wash your hands with antibacterial soap, you kill "life" by the millions - all those innocent bacteria. Yet you are not up in arms about their lost lives, because they are not "human beings" with the rights and respect we accord to "human beings". Please try to understand it this time: The debate is whether or not that fertilized egg is a human being, with the rights and due respect accorded to a human being in the Constitution. This basic understanding can help you a whole lot in figuring out Roe vs Wade, which says that the word "person" in the Constitution does not involve the unborn, especially since abortion was legal during the time it was written. You are the one that challenged the idea that <<<We now now with certainty that Human life begins at conception>>> Exactly. I challenged the use of "HUMAN LIFE" in that sentence. You then changed it to "LIFE". Nobody is contesting that the fertilized egg is alive, just as the egg and the sperm preceding it are alive. What I am contesting is your assertion that the fertilized egg is a person, a human being.