Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: el_gaviero who wrote (167411)	7/27/2005 12:49:03 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Me: A person has natural rights, you say, the denial of which (you go on to say) is tyranny. You: ”But does this not apply to the Iraqi people as well? They too have natural rights, one of which surely is the right to order their own affairs as they see fit.” They certainly do, and no Iraqi has the right to tyrannize another Iraqi as a right of birth, ethnicity, religion, political support or what ever. We are currently involved with the affairs of Iraq. Due to the level and circumstance of our involvement we also hold some responsibility for the how those affairs are conducted. We can not condone any kind of tyrannical take over whether it be by insurgents or by our own friends and allies. ”When we go in and impose our vision of order on them, we are denying to them what is surely one of their natural rights, “ It could be but that is not the case currently. ” …hence, by your definition we are the ones acting in a way that is tyrannical. Not by my definition at all. ”Hum. Is it a valid reason to kill 40 or 50 thousand people if the number of years that he would have to bide, in order to garner the required resources, were roughly equal to forever? Your data is flawed. ”Rough Cut, my problem with you is this: for some reason you want us to be in Iraq. The reasons you give for why you want us to be there are not your true reasons --- or if they are, you are a fool.” Some reason??? Since I thought it was common sense I didn’t go into it but I will provide some reasons. 1)We are in Iraq, which has little to do with what I want or don’t want it is a simple matter of fact. 2)If we left Iraq under the current conditions there would be violent uprisings from tribal, political, fundamental, fascist, racist, and economic extremists. The empathetic Muslims from around the world would take sides which involves at least 1.4 billion people. The secular interests from around the world would not let their interests be overlooked so they would take sides too. The blood bath that followed would make the holocaust of Nazi Germany look like a cake walk. That is reason enough for me to think it would be irresponsible and wrong. There are other reasons but lets just start there. ”What I doubt about you is your integrity.” Feel free to doubt what ever you want.