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To: LLCF who wrote (127)	8/2/2005 11:03:36 AM
From: Rarebird	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 26251

Time and Space can only be an "illusion" if you are not fully rooted in this world. The illusion you often speak of and attribute to mystics results from transcending without limit. That reflects lack of discipline. That's not true transcendemce. True transcendence reaches the outter limit or fringe of this world and then backs off and retreats. "The way up and the way down are one and the same way." (very wise Chinese saying).

To: LLCF who wrote (127)	8/2/2005 11:21:31 AM
From: Rarebird	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 26251

The only real mystic I ever read was Jacob Boehme. And that was a long long time ago. He is quite a classic, if I remember correctly. According to Boehme, good cannot be conceived without evil. Good reveals itself through evil. For Boehme, everything is will and opposition. What made Boehme fascinating to the German Idealists was that he not only say a dark principle in all forms of existence but he was compelled to admit such a principle in the Deity itself. Like I said, I have a little interest in theology since I studied with a few Jesuit Philosophy Professors when I was in Graduate school. But it's all wild Kantian speculation to me without any Truth at its basis. That is to say, it's interesting dialogue but I wouldn't sell my soul to any of it.