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To: Elsewhere who wrote (129572)8/3/2005 5:29:39 PM
From: DMaA  Respond to of 793914
 
If we're going back to the old Mercury days of dropping the capsule into the ocean (or land ) whatever heat shielding material they use better be able to take one heck of an impact.

Might have to go back to slapping on a mass that gets burned up on reentry.



To: Elsewhere who wrote (129572)8/3/2005 5:51:11 PM
From: Thomas A Watson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793914
 
As to your analogy on one transistor, one failed transistor may or may not cause a complete system failure. Just like one tile failure may or may not cause a complete system failure.

I use the word proffer when it quickly and accurately describes the intrinsic action in anothers post.

Once again your quotes go not to safety but to the cost of maintenance.

Do your think the structure that tiles are glued to takes into account that glue spreads mechanical stress? Does it seem likely that this new X-33 material in larger pieces would have points of mounting and would the existing tile mounting structure handle those point stresses?

The cost of a redesign must take into account all form fit and function characteristics.

Oh and thanks for the link to the SpaceShuttle.pdf, it's very interesting reading.



To: Elsewhere who wrote (129572)8/3/2005 6:15:45 PM
From: greenspirit  Respond to of 793914
 
Jochen, I hope the people losing their job can find employment with the U.S. forces in nearby locations. Most people in the U.S. don't realize how much help and assistance our military gets from dedicated and caring local workers at bases such as these.

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Würzburg-area leaders prepare for big changes
estripes.com
By Steve Liewer, Stars and Stripes
European edition, Wednesday, August 3, 2005

Steve Liewer / S&S
Bernd Moser, lord mayor of Kitzingen, Germany, said he was not surprised to learn that several U.S. Army bases in his northern Bavarian city would be closing, but he was stunned to learn they would be vacated in slightly more than a year.


WÜRZBURG, Germany — The news that the Army would soon close a handful of bases in northern Bavaria had been long expected, but that hardly cushioned the blow to German civic leaders when it finally came last week.

“My reaction wasn’t astonishment. I knew since a long time the closure will come,” said Lord Mayor Bernd Moser of Kitzingen, which will see all of its U.S. bases close. “What was astonishing was the planning on this, that it will happen so quickly.”

The U.S. Army Europe announced Friday that troops will leave five major bases and six smaller facilities in 2006, with the sites to be turned over to the German government by Sept. 30, 2007.

Many of the soldiers are from the Würzburg-based 1st Infantry Division, which is moving its headquarters and troops to Fort Riley, Kan., as part of the Army’s massive restructuring of forces from divisions into brigade-size “units of action.”

The major facilities shutting down include Larson and Harvey barracks and the Marshall Heights housing area in Kitzingen, Giebelstadt Army Airfield in Giebelstadt, and Faulenberg Kasern in Würzburg. USAREUR said two other major bases in Würzburg, Leighton Barracks and the Würzburg Army Hospital, will close eventually but didn’t announce a date.

The base closures will affect 6,100 soldiers, 2,000 German and American workers, and 11,000 family members in the three communities. Some units will deactivate, others will move to the United States, and still others will move elsewhere in Europe.

The U.S. Army Garrison Franconia, based in Würzburg, will lose one-fourth to one-third of its 45,000 soldiers and family members. The 1st ID units in Kitzingen and Würzburg mostly will leave through inactivation or transfer, while most troops in Giebelstadt will transfer to other nearby bases.

Moser said the departure of about 7,000 American soldiers and family members from Kitzingen — which has a total population of 22,000 — is a huge blow. But it is a blow the city has been planning for since last summer, when President Bush announced 1st ID soldiers would leave Germany.

Moser said Kitzingen has hired a consultant to study future uses for Harvey, Larson and Marshall Heights, and their recommendations are expected before the bases are turned over.

“We are on the way to prepare for this moment,” Moser said. “When the American soldiers leave Kitzingen, we will have these [reports] on our desks to decide what we will do.”

Harvey Barracks includes an airstrip the Army has rarely used since the 1980s. The post is adjacent to business and industrial parks, which suggest future uses for the land. Larson features barracks, a newly renovated gymnasium, a chapel, a movie theater, motor pools and an 18-hole golf course. Marshall Heights is heavily built up with apartments, two schools, a convenience store and bowling alley.

Ole Kruse, a spokesman for the city of Würzburg, expressed relief that Leighton Barracks and the nearby Army hospital will stay open indefinitely.

Although Leighton’s highest profile tenant, the 1st ID headquarters staff, will be leaving next year with 800 to 1,000 soldiers, the 69th Air Defense Artillery Regiment will move its 150-troop headquarters battery from Giebelstadt in late 2006, said 1st Lt. Eugene Hunt, the unit’s spokesman.

And the Franconia Garrison will consolidate about 1,400 military and civilian workers now at Faulenberg and Harvey on Leighton. According to Army policy, relocated units cannot move again for at least three years. Presumably, then, Leighton will remain open until at least 2009.

“Not many soldiers will be leaving,” Kruse said. “For Würzburg, it’s OK.”