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To: LindyBill who wrote (129994)	8/5/2005 1:30:01 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793800

It is so obvious that going at it from the employer end is the answer. One of the things I learned from practicing law is how big the cash economy must be. Just about every divorce case I've ever done, one or both of the parties has accused the other of taking cash under the table, with good justification. And when business deals go bad, the partners point that same finger. Everybody who takes cash, also pays in cash, because they can't put the money in the bank. They pay cash to their employees, they pay cash to their retailers, to their wholesalers, to their distributors, to their repair people, and all of them pay cash. Even the ones who keep books, keep cash off the books. You're never going to get rid of it unless you outlaw cash and make everybody use electronic transactions. At any rate, those illegals are getting paid cash now. The employer is willing to cheat IRS and SS, why not INS?

To: LindyBill who wrote (129994)	8/5/2005 2:20:51 PM
From: Brian Sullivan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793800

It is so obvious that going at it from the employer end is the answer. A rigorous SS check would force them out of the country. And allow a guest program to work. We don't need a million guards on the border. There would still be plenty of work for them in Southern California. Who does all of the yard work on everyone yard down there? Surely you must have hired them to do some of the grunt work on the contracts that you did when you lived there? You paid them in cash and left no paper trail right? Unless the INS is raiding jobs sites this will continue forever. The restaraunts and other low end jobs would take a bit of a hit; maybe half of the jobs take by illegals would be impacted. The large agricultural farms will sign up for the "guest" worker program but the day labor area will stay underground, pretty much like it is today.

To: LindyBill who wrote (129994)	8/5/2005 2:31:36 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793800

"It is so obvious that going at it from the employer end is the answer. " I completely agree with this. You can't blame the illegals for taking advantage of cheap labor employers who are winked at by the authorities. Does Hawaii strictly enforce legal employment? Or is the problem small because of it's remoteness? I think if you made employing illegals a REAL crime with REAL punishments, you could quickly end the problem. The economic fallout and adjustment would be severe, but probably worth it in the long run. Making the illegals the "criminals" will never work. In Mexico, they're looked on as heros.