To: exdaytrader76 who wrote (237 ) 8/7/2005 3:59:55 PM From: 2MAR$ Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 520 And do this, understanding the present time. The hour has come for you to wake up from your slumber, because our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed. Yes that's the verse , among others . Hoping along with the "citing of verses" to look at the feeling and overtones meant to be conveyed from the verses. If you listen deeply and finely enough to the verse's tune , you may then begin hearing what others do not hear , and begin to see what most others do not see. I'm sure you can cite those verses. There was the first part of that question concerning "awakening" I was interested also in hearing your response to... I would ask you then , that without a "Christ" or a religion , would you have found your way to these realizations still ?Again, could you cite the verse? Jesus preached mostly the law of Moses, and much of what Jesus said was reactionary to his time and the Pharisees. Well yes he did preach many things , and told many parables usually falling upon deaf ears ... those many who hadn't the eyes to see or the ears to hear . It was the right of the mob to stone the woman to death... exactly because of Moses' law , so Jesus was teaching more I think than just that . His challenge to those of that angry mob was to be still and reflect a bit ...on what ? The Law of the law of Moses & of not killing ? Or to reflect & listen and hear something more in themselves , if they could suspend their own persistent sense of selfrighteousness and judgement . Though to me its quite obvious that many a later King and Priest did take liberties with what Moses may have said , rewriting massaging and adding passages as needed . As for the Ten Commandments , they were already present in most every tribal culture and emerging society since time began ...at least "time" as we know it from cultures with oral and written tradition.