To: sea_urchin who wrote (23464 ) 8/7/2005 1:30:45 PM From: Jamey Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 81884 Here is what the Zionists really want. An idea proposed by the FLAME organization. "Here's a better idea [than the proposed Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip]: Yes, move all Jews from Gaza and even from those parts of the 'West Bank' that might eventually be ceded to form an autonomous Arab entity and repatriate them to 'Israel proper.' But at the same time, evacuate all Arabs from Israel and resettle them in Gaza, the 'West Bank,' or wherever they might want to go. Such exchange of populations would be drastic, but certainly not unprecedented. The vast exchange of Muslims and non-Muslims on the Indian subcontinent, though accompanied by much bloodshed, is perhaps the best and ultimately most successful example of such population exchange." As an organization that must literally buy its way into print, FLAME might seem a fair example of over-the-top Jewish extremism. But the center is always defined by the extremes; and regarding Israel's treatment of its Arabs, the Jewish mainstream seems to be moving noticeably to the right. Martin Peretz, editor in chief of the New Republic (admittedly not a centrist on these issues), took a further rightward step in the Aug. 8 edition with a proposal that seems designed to strip Arab Israelis of Israeli citizenship: "Nearly everybody, even on the Israeli far right, now grasps that Israel cannot sit on the Arabs of the West Bank forever. So Israel will decide where the lines will be drawn, and it will cut as little as possible into densely populated Arab regions of a territorially cartography. "Concentrated Arab population centers in Israel that abut the new Palestinian state may be easily transferred from one national jurisdiction to another, with compensation from the Israeli social system following their present recipients for decades and beyond. This is not 'population transfer,' it is pragmatism: the ceding of what are actually Palestinian towns cleaving to Palestine." If the Jewish state must at all costs be a Jewish-majority state, then the Peretz and FLAME proposals have a certain logic: Clearly, Israel's goal must be to control as much territory as possible while governing as few Arabs as possible. Unloading Gaza — a small, resource-poor territory with a Jewish population of only 8,000, an Arab population of fully 1.2 million and a convenient land border with Egypt — is, demographically speaking, a dream of a deal for Jewish Israel. But there are no more such deals to be had. From here on, preserving a Jewish majority in the Jewish state may well require measures such as those that Peretz and FLAME envision. FLAME concedes that the price in blood could be high. In fact, the Indo-Pakistan war of 1947, which included, in FLAME's phrase, "the most successful example of such population exchange," cost 1 million lives. But note well: The Indo-Pakistani exchange was supported and facilitated by both sides to the conflict. Not so in the FLAME and Peretz proposals.latimes.com James