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To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (67114)	8/8/2005 6:16:54 AM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Please! Tropical Belt has advantages in relation to ag business. You can harvest 2 1/2 crops a year while in the northen hemisphere you harvest one. There is a lack of understanding on the particularities of the Tropical Belt. Tropical Belt is that area just up and below the Equator. If Tropical Belt wasn't competitive, the import markets would not be slapping tariffs in orange juice, Ethanol, Sugar... The ag business thrives on the Tropical Belt. We take Indian cows, resistant to Tropical deseases but that doesn't get weight fast. Interbreed them with European types that gain weight fast but are not resistant to the tropical bugs. Get a Nelore breed that is resistant to tropical deseases and gain weight fast and rake in the cash. We get 2 million km2 that were good for nothing. The Cerrado. Plow 1.5m deep and make bean field out of it. The people who don't know about ag business in the Tropical Belt tell Brazil is cutting the Amazon jungle to get more land to cultivate. The guys park their tractor at the bar in the evening, order a beer and piss in their trouser with laughing on hearing that crap. You need to have that track record on agro-metereology. You only get that if your livelyhood depned on that. The Tropical Belt is the only place where the weather behaes like that. Your knowledge of that aspect is a competitive weapon. You get a cow the biological live of a cow is a natural barrier to crossbreed. But on the case of plants, getting 1 and 1/2 crops a year means you can do faster research. Monsanto is not interested in Canada or Sweden. They are interested in Brazil. I drive there and I see what I call Monsanto gigolos, they keep nursing all varieties of stuff. If you buy a piece of land and they find that in your specific type of sols they can test stuff, you become Monsanto gigolo. They want to see how varieties develop on that soil you own. The day I called a bunch of Gauchos Cow Gigolos, I escaped alive beause )It was my lucky day): They suspected I carried a gun to be bold enough to walk on a bar full of half drunk gauchos and shout: "Good evening cow gogolos". (It was the days I was field engineer banck in the late 70's. You don't enter a bar there wothout greeting the people. They don't like.) Cow gigolos because they go around with heir cows enticing them to have sex with bulls or extract semen from buls to inoculate cows.

To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (67114)	8/8/2005 7:38:17 AM
From: Moominoid	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

hmm that's what I wrote, I thought Brazil had an advantage in the tropical climate and cheap labor and labor intensive production. This is exactly what I told Chapman Interesting that there's no direct subsidy anymore. But there could be some indirect ones. I'd have to find out more details of that. What taxes are there on retail gasoline for example vs. fuel used in agriculture? I have no idea. I was pretty skeptical of Chapman's claim it was an energy sink though. But just reporting what he said. He is very optimistic on the size of petroleum resources.