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To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (67207)	8/10/2005 9:52:54 PM
From: Slagle	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Seeker of Truth Re: "here in Toronto" There is no single "pay rate" for public school teachers here in the USA as the public school system is run and funded locally. In some places here school teachers are paid very well and in other places less well; you might call it a matter of "local choice" (and we like it this way). Another thing about the way our funding of the schools work: it is extremely progressive as in most school districts nearly all the money comes from local property taxes and it is of course the well off (I think that I may have bought and paid for a school or two over the years <g>) who own the property that is subject to the tax. So whatever the schools cost the burden falls mostly on the well off where in other countries the funding comes from the national budget. Our system is better and very fair to the poor. Slagle

To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (67207)	8/11/2005 1:52:23 AM
From: energyplay	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Teacher's pay - this is sort of like eating in an airport resturant. You CAN pay more money, but it doesn't get much better. Some of the structual problems (of airport food and public education) are simmilar - no competition, need to serve everybody, too many rules. Higher pay was tried in a number of places in the 1980s. I don't remember the details, but there was no great improvement. Many communities were looking at the results of these studies, since this promised a quick fix - a significant number of communities, say 15% would be happy to improve education just by throwing money at it. Emphasis seemed to shift towards reducing class size, which can be more expensive - raising teacher's pay 25% does increase the health insurance, and other employment over costs much, hiring 25% more teachers does. Plus, they often need more classroms, which means school construction or a bunch of those portable classroom trailiers that last maybe 12 years...