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To: Alighieri who wrote (245898)8/14/2005 12:54:58 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1575780
 
Six U.S. Soldiers Killed in Iraq Bombings

By ANTONIO CASTANEDA, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 27 minutes ago

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Six U.S. soldiers died in roadside bombings and a shooting, the military said Sunday, as lawmakers rushed to persuade Sunni Arabs to accept federalism provisions in the draft constitution that is due in one day.

With intense negotiations continuing just hours before parliament was to ratify the charter, one Shiite legislator, Jawad al-Maliki, told The Associated Press that the deadline might have to be extended.

"If we don't reach an agreement today, we might amend the interim constitution and extend the deadline by a minimum of two weeks," he said.

However, U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad said the document was on track to be finished on time.


The irony of all their rushing to complete the new constitution is that its very unlikely it will pass. There is a provision within the constitution that states if a majority in three provinces or states votes against the constitution, it fails. The Sunnis are a majority in 4 provinces and they are unlikely to vote for a federalized Iraq.

The other part of this that's interesting............the Bushies' belief that once the constitution is finished, things will quiet down in Iraq. Where have we heard that one before?

ted



To: Alighieri who wrote (245898)8/14/2005 1:53:20 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1575780
 
"“In the absence of the president making a persuasive case, many people don’t know how to judge what’s going on there,” Bacevich said."

The last statement in this article....see above.......is truly depressing. Apparently, Americans can not think on their own.....they need someone serving them pablum so they understand.

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Posted on Sun, Aug. 14, 2005


Majority of Americans have lost confidence in the war, polls show

By DICK POLMAN

Knight Ridder Newspapers

The fog of war has settled over the home front.

Bedeviled by the mounting casualties in Iraq and increasingly confused by the mixed messages emanating from war leaders, Americans in large numbers are losing confidence in the mission.

New polls report that for the first time, a majority of Americans reject President Bush’s contention that the war over there is making us safer over here. Indeed, barring major immediate progress in Iraq, some suggest that 2005 may well be remembered as the year when public opinion went south and never came back — a mood shift roughly analogous to 1968, when domestic confidence in the Vietnam War began its irreversible slide.

There has long been public frustration about the gap between administration statements and battlefield realities — witness Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld’s prewar prediction that the fighting “could last six days, six weeks, I doubt six months,” or that 92 percent of U.S. military deaths have occurred since Bush declared on May 1, 2003, that “major combat” was over.

But for a long time the restive Americans tended to be Democrats who already disliked Bush or who never bought his war pitch in the first place. What’s new today is that frustrations about the war are being voiced by those who backed the mission at the outset. These Americans — as evidenced in interviews by reporters from Texas to New York City during the past week — are increasingly alarmed by the facts on the ground and confused about the best course of action in the future.

Consider Pennsylvanian Eric Zagata. He is a 24-year-old from Luzerne who served in Iraq last year as a member of the 109th Field Artillery’s Bravo Battery until he was injured by shrapnel. He was luckier than the 92 Pennsylvanians slain thus far — in battle deaths, Pennsylvania ranks third in the nation, behind California and Texas — but he is a changed man.

“Going into it,” he said, “I just felt it was my obligation. Now I feel bad. I think we’re in such a spot. We can’t pull out of there because if we do, it would just be a waste of all our people’s lives and all their people’s lives. I think it’s a real Catch-22.”

His sentiments shifted after “seeing all these guys getting killed every day for nothing, really. We went over there, and we’re fighting this war, and we’re still paying $2.40 a gallon for gas. Eighteen hundred people have died, and nothing has been accomplished.” (The U.S. military death toll, on Friday, was 1,846.)

Or consider Marcy Price, 54, who was shopping Thursday near Fort Jackson, the U.S. Army’s largest basic training center, in South Carolina. She backed the war at the outset because “I thought that it was very worthwhile — that it was something we needed to do in response to 9/11.” However, “I changed my mind because of the length of the war” and because, as she sees it, the Bush administration has failed to show that Iraq, unlike Afghanistan, is a crucial front in the broader fight against terrorism.

These sentiments are reflected in the polls. When the war was a year old, in March 2004, about 65 percent of Americans were supporting the decision to wage it. But in the latest CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll, support has sagged to 44 percent. Meanwhile, 57 percent now say that the war has made the U.S. “less safe from terrorism” — a Gallup record high and a key finding because it undercuts a core Bush argument for launching the war in the first place.

Retired Army Col. Andrew Bacevich, an expert on war and public opinion who teaches at Boston University, said: “At this point, the president has nearly exhausted the extra moral authority that he was granted after 9/11. It’s hard for people to accept battlefield deaths when they can’t see where a war is going.”

Debby Boarman, a 58-year-old retiree from Evansville, Ind., voted for Bush in 2000 and in 2004. But visiting the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington last week, she said: “I don’t think he’s doing as good a job as he said he was going to do. I don’t like the way he is handling (Iraq) — well, he isn’t handling (it). … It’s more of a lack thereof.”

Bush can still count on staunch support from millions of Americans, including Greg Henning of Ohio, who was visiting Ground Zero in New York on Tuesday.

“If we had done this (war) in the 1990s, I don’t think (9/11) would have happened,” he said. He sees the Iraq casualties as an acceptable sacrifice because “if thousands of soldiers hadn’t died (in previous wars), we wouldn’t have been here right now” living in freedom.

And notwithstanding the attention focused on Cindy Sheehan, who is camping out at Bush’s ranch to protest her son’s death in Iraq, there are many women like Diane Eggers, a 51-year-old Bush voter from Euless, Texas, whose son, Kyle Eggers, was killed last December. She said: “He supported President Bush because he believed in what (Bush) was doing. There’s no good part of any war … You just have to go with it.”

The public’s growing bewilderment stems in part from the perception that Bush and his war leaders are communicating poorly. In the latest poll conducted by the nonpartisan Pew Research Center for the People and the Press, 64 percent say that Bush is failing to articulate a “clear plan” for winning the war, the highest negative share since the start of the conflict.

“In the absence of the president making a persuasive case, many people don’t know how to judge what’s going on there,” Bacevich said.

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To: Alighieri who wrote (245898)8/14/2005 5:28:24 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575780
 
Be sure to read the second page.

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Someone Tell the President the War Is Over

By FRANK RICH
Published: August 14, 2005

LIKE the Japanese soldier marooned on an island for years after V-J Day, President Bush may be the last person in the country to learn that for Americans, if not Iraqis, the war in Iraq is over. "We will stay the course," he insistently tells us from his Texas ranch. What do you mean we, white man?

A president can't stay the course when his own citizens (let alone his own allies) won't stay with him.
The approval rate for Mr. Bush's handling of Iraq plunged to 34 percent in last weekend's Newsweek poll - a match for the 32 percent that approved L.B.J.'s handling of Vietnam in early March 1968. (The two presidents' overall approval ratings have also converged: 41 percent for Johnson then, 42 percent for Bush now.) On March 31, 1968, as L.B.J.'s ratings plummeted further, he announced he wouldn't seek re-election, commencing our long extrication from that quagmire.

But our current Texas president has even outdone his predecessor; Mr. Bush has lost not only the country but also his army. Neither bonuses nor fudged standards nor the faking of high school diplomas has solved the recruitment shortfall. Now Jake Tapper of ABC News reports that the armed forces are so eager for bodies they will flout "don't ask, don't tell" and hang on to gay soldiers who tell, even if they tell the press.

The president's cable cadre is in disarray as well. At Fox News Bill O'Reilly is trashing Donald Rumsfeld for his incompetence, and Ann Coulter is chiding Mr. O'Reilly for being a defeatist. In an emblematic gesture akin to waving a white flag, Robert Novak walked off a CNN set and possibly out of a job rather than answer questions about his role in smearing the man who helped expose the administration's prewar inflation of Saddam W.M.D.'s. (On this sinking ship, it's hard to know which rat to root for.)


As if the right-wing pundit crackup isn't unsettling enough, Mr. Bush's top war strategists, starting with Mr. Rumsfeld and Gen. Richard Myers, have of late tried to rebrand the war in Iraq as what the defense secretary calls "a global struggle against violent extremism." A struggle is what you have with your landlord. When the war's über-managers start using euphemisms for a conflict this lethal, it's a clear sign that the battle to keep the Iraq war afloat with the American public is lost.

That battle crashed past the tipping point this month in Ohio. There's historical symmetry in that. It was in Cincinnati on Oct. 7, 2002, that Mr. Bush gave the fateful address that sped Congressional ratification of the war just days later. The speech was a miasma of self-delusion, half-truths and hype. The president said that "we know that Iraq and Al Qaeda have had high-level contacts that go back a decade," an exaggeration based on evidence that the Senate Intelligence Committee would later find far from conclusive. He said that Saddam "could have a nuclear weapon in less than a year" were he able to secure "an amount of highly enriched uranium a little larger than a single softball." Our own National Intelligence Estimate of Oct. 1 quoted State Department findings that claims of Iraqi pursuit of uranium in Africa were "highly dubious."

It was on these false premises - that Iraq was both a collaborator on 9/11 and about to inflict mushroom clouds on America - that honorable and brave young Americans were sent off to fight. Among them were the 19 marine reservists from a single suburban Cleveland battalion slaughtered in just three days at the start of this month. As they perished, another Ohio marine reservist who had served in Iraq came close to winning a Congressional election in southern Ohio. Paul Hackett, a Democrat who called the president a "chicken hawk," received 48 percent of the vote in exactly the kind of bedrock conservative Ohio district that decided the 2004 election for Mr. Bush.

These are the tea leaves that all Republicans, not just Chuck Hagel, are reading now. Newt Gingrich called the Hackett near-victory "a wake-up call." The resolutely pro-war New York Post editorial page begged Mr. Bush (to no avail) to "show some leadership" by showing up in Ohio to salute the fallen and their families. A Bush loyalist, Senator George Allen of Virginia, instructed the president to meet with Cindy Sheehan, the mother camping out in Crawford, as "a matter of courtesy and decency." Or, to translate his Washingtonese, as a matter of politics. Only someone as adrift from reality as Mr. Bush would need to be told that a vacationing president can't win a standoff with a grief-stricken parent commandeering TV cameras and the blogosphere 24/7.

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