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To: tejek who wrote (245912)8/14/2005 6:31:17 PM
From: neolib  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1572259
 
Rather than awaiting the arrival of Iran to the Nuke Club, why not work on making Israel exit it? The refusal of the West to approach that subject makes any negotiations with Arab states on nuclear issues much more difficult.



To: tejek who wrote (245912)8/14/2005 6:32:32 PM
From: Taro  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572259
 
This obviously came as a true surprise to the Europeans and unfortunately only confirms the skepticism of Bush and his people.
I wish and I am sure so does Bush that it had come to a different closure than what now seems imminent.

Whatever you have to say about this, none of you should now have a chance to argue, that GW didn't give the European positive thinkers a fair chance to work things out in a reasonable way together with the reasonable and peace loving leaders of Iran.

Unfortunately the Iran leaders now believe the have free hands from all Europe to do what they want in the nuclear department and that old Europe in some way may have a moderating effect on the current and in particular upcoming US government and their reactions to same.

This will eventually show to be as a serious miscalculation as the Saddam invasion of Kuwait with consequences most likely way over those of that time.

Taro



To: tejek who wrote (245912)8/15/2005 1:24:30 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1572259
 
The hard line of the West has resulted in the recent election of a hard line Iranian as leader.

The prevention of something along the lines of 1,400 candidates deemed unacceptable by the mullahs allowed only "hard liners" to run. You, or course, blame that on "the West", and not on the mullahs that banned 99% of the candidates.

Your perspective is a joke.

And as I understand it, the winner won more based on his ability to provide jobs and reduce corruption as mayor of Tehran than on his political ideology. The Iranian people are sick of their leadership.

The only solution is to include Iran in the circle of nuclear countries and try to encourage as much interaction as possible through trade and other progressive means in an attempt to moderate the current regime.

You would give the wife beater a bigger baseball bat, and also have him over for BBQs in the daytime in the hopes that the BBQ would moderate his behavior. The rest of us would just throw him in jail.



To: tejek who wrote (245912)8/15/2005 9:55:30 AM
From: RetiredNow  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1572259
 
I'd rather see us go to war with Iran than allow Iran to have a nuke. The reason is that I believe that if Iran gets the bomb, the probability of the U.S. getting hit by a nuke will go up by an order of magnitude. Iran is known to be the world's largest supporter of terrorism and they are even now supplying and supporting the insurgents in Iraq, as well as Hezbollah and Hamas. Allowing Iran to gain nukes will be helping a state sponsor of terrorists acquire nukes.

If we have to go to war to prevent Iran from getting nukes, I'd prefer that it be completely an air war. We don't want to institute regime change or occupy Iran. Instead, we should focus all of our efforts at destroying with airstrikes, all buildings above and below ground, as well as anti-aircraft positions.