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To: JohnM who wrote (133324)8/19/2005 8:12:34 AM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793903
 

But the more important point is that much of these attempts are like Pipes, attempts to rein in free speech. To label some speech as traitorous. Not acts; speech.


Demanding teaching instead of politicking during the class is not a "speech" problem. It's a matter of getting Profs back to where they should be. What we have now is all of the Profs reacting like you. Calling any attempt to correct matters a "smear" of the teachers involved. As of now, there is no real oversight of what is taught. The administrations will put up with almost anything.

This reaction would not be happening if too many of these Profs had not consistantly gone over the line. That is why you are now seeing Horowitz's success with state legislatures.



To: JohnM who wrote (133324)8/19/2005 10:37:05 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793903
 
Nadine uses the phrase "constructive criticism" to say such is acceptable. The problems with that term are obvious, but most central is its distaste for criticism it doesn't like. One might ask what is the point of criticism if it's all likeable criticism

Once again you twist an obvious term. The destinction between "constructive" and "destructive" criticism is NOT whether the criticism is "likeable" but whether the criticizer wants to IMPROVE the thing being criticized or wants to DESTROY it.

By your logic, if I must accept Senator Biden's criticism of US foreign policy as acceptable (which I do, though I disagree with most of it), then I have no grounds not to accept the criticism of radical Islamists. This is moral cretinism.