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To: steve harris who wrote (246892)8/21/2005 9:45:26 PM
From: SilentZ  Respond to of 1572171
 
>you ain't got much room to talk after I made a reasonable extension of the socialist comments that Gates shouldn't be paid a lot more than a janitor.

No you didn't, because I can hit you right back with "Gates shouldn't be making 100,000X what the janitor makes, but 1,000X is OK." And the real point of the argument is "If everybody in Gates's class (we'll say the top 1% of the country) makes 100,000X what the janitor's class (we'll say the bottom 25%) makes, and then that 100,000X grows to 120,000X, and then 150,000X, and then 200,000X, and then the janitor's class stays the same or gets lower, then there's something wrong with the system, and if the janitor is less and less able to make his ends meet while the rich are getting richer, it's desirable to tax the Gates's a bit more to help the janitor's class. You may not agree with it, but it is a perfectly reasonable view to hold.

>You guys didn't like it when your own argument comes out of your pocket such as ted is lucky to have two degrees, the govt should make him give one to me since I have no degrees because I wasn't lucky.

One needs to go to school to get a degree. If you didn't go to school (or pass some sort of proxy exam), you shouldn't have the degree. However, if people in Ted's class consistently make more money than those in your class because they hold more degrees, and people in your class can't afford to go to school, then Ted's class should be taxed to help you go to school. That's the reasonable analogy.

>for that matter, you said your house was worth four times as much as it was a few years ago? Well, mine isn't. You must have been lucky and I wasn't. Send me a check!

My property taxes have increased as well, so heck, I am!

>Liberal logic fails every time....

"Conservative logic" is an oxymoron.

-Z



To: steve harris who wrote (246892)8/21/2005 10:27:32 PM
From: Joe NYC  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1572171
 
Steve,

I made a reasonable extension of the socialist comments that Gates shouldn't be paid a lot more than a janitor.

I think that if Bill Gates were to be a janitor, he would still drive liberals crazy by becoming Roger Wilco...

Joe



To: steve harris who wrote (246892)8/22/2005 1:48:06 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572171
 
you ain't got much room to talk after I made a reasonable extension of the socialist comments that Gates shouldn't be paid a lot more than a janitor. You guys didn't like it when your own argument comes out of your pocket such as ted is lucky to have two degrees, the govt should make him give one to me since I have no degrees because I wasn't lucky.

LOL. Excuse me. One more time...........cash is a very liquid commodity. University degrees are not. You can't transfer degrees from one person to the next like you can money. I understand why you are ignoring this logic. Nonetheless, ignoring it won't make the argument go away nor change the reality. Sorry.