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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (247471)	8/25/2005 11:31:43 AM
From: Road Walker	Respond to of 1572608

re: Of course things will change as more Chinese and Indians buy cars of their own (and you can bet this will happen as we continue to outsource). But then once that happens, gas demand will spike up once again, and we'll once again end up paying $3/gallon at the pump. China uses about 1/4 of the oil that the US uses, and their consumption is growing less that 10% per year. If we truly made an all out effort to target energy efficiency, our reduction in use would dwarf their increase in use. And also give the world time to develop and implement alternative fuels. (Reference - photius.com Our policy should be technology agnostic; the auto manufacturers can product standard, economy sized autos that get close to 50 MPG. Diesels get temendous mileage. Doesn't have to be hybrids. We just have to offer very significant incentives for efficiency, regardless of how it is achieved. John edit bad link - photius.com

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (247471)	8/25/2005 2:05:21 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572608

I'll ignore the math errors and tell you that it will take more than just hybrids. Besides, hybrid technology doesn't exactly come for free. Honda Accord Hybrid, for instance, gets rid of the spare tire well for the battery, and yet, it only consumes like 10% less fuel. Ford Escape Hybrid might do better (it's a full hybrid instead of a partial like Honda), but even then, I don't think we'll get the 50% reduction with hybrids alone. What's the difference between a full hybrid and Honda? ted

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (247471)	8/25/2005 2:46:42 PM
From: RetiredNow	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572608

I read somewhere that for every 1 mpg increase in average fuel efficiency in the U.S., we reduce the need for oil by 1 mbpd. The U.S. uses 20 mbpd now and cars get on avg 25 mpg. So to reduce our consumption by 50%, down to 10 mbpd, we'd need to increase mpg from 25 to 35. To reduce consumption from 20 mbpd to 5 mbpd, we'd need to increase average mpg by 15, from 25 to 40. No math errors there. The Toyota Prius gets 50-60 mpg. If we mandated that car manufacturers get an avg 40 mpg, that would be totally doable within 10 years and the technology exists today in the form of FULL HYBRIDS. Talking about the Lexus or Honda Accord or other SUV hybrids aren't the way to get there. Those vehicles use hybrid technology to improve power, not mileage.