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To: Slagle who wrote (68092)	8/25/2005 3:33:20 PM
From: Moominoid	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

There are certainly European names: siafdu.tripod.com And others with English names... Famous Indians born in Europe: How about Sonya Gandhi and Mother Teresa for a start? Look at the Chinese in Indonesia they all have Indonesian names now. Generally I find a resistance when I suggest to people they might have ethnic origins that they ahdn't considered before :)

To: Slagle who wrote (68092)	8/25/2005 8:48:19 PM
From: arun gera	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Slagle, You and your friend missed the humor completely. On one hand you say it is not genetics but it is culture that is important. And culturally and psychologically the 20 million "brown sahibs and mems" are trying to consciously and unconsciously imitate the Whites who once used to rule them. One of the Governor Generals of India called Lord Macaulay, explicitly tried to convert the upper class of India into the British way (obviously in a cultural and psychological way). >Arun, Re: "Your East Indian friend from the 1960's" I just called him and read him these posts and he says that you are dead wrong, the the Indian "upper class" no matter how you define it, is NOT English. And don't try to tell him that he is part English, for him those would be fighting words. <g>> Let him deny it. Without knowing him, I guessed his background described below. Because in 1960s only the most upper class were studying in the US. >As far as " upper class" goes he reckons that the descendents of the "Native Princes" who ruled the country for the Brits would be at the top of the heap, some of them very wealthy and respected.> Guess who was the earliest famous Indian cricketer - A prince called Ranji, the Indian national cricket tournament is named after him. The best cricketers used to come from the Parsi community in the 1950s and from Bombay, people who were closer to the British. > My friend claims some kinship to one of those clans and he says among that class there is ZERO European blood.> Is their anyone in India who does not claim some kinship with some royal family? > He comes from what once would have been called the "merchant caste" and many of these folk are the very wealthy business families that form the bulk of the most wealthy in India. He says that of this group, his very own people, he is not aware of a single English family in the whole country when he lived there growing up in the 1950's and 1960's. And he would be in a position to know. As a boy his family sent him to an expensive private school> Slagle, you are just substantiating my argument. Ask him if it was a Christian missionary school. In India they call them "convent schools". Don't you see that he was being anglicized? -Arun