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To: arun gera who wrote (68106)8/25/2005 9:12:39 PM
From: Slagle  Respond to of 74559
 
Arun Re: "Friend" I think you have it figured out pretty well. I love and admire him and recognize him as maybe the brightest man I have ever know; unbelievable gifts in mathematics. He has made three fortunes here and lost two of them. For all that he is a sort of rough "devil may care" guy in many ways. He is a character.

I will ask him about the school but I don't think it was a Christian school because I don't remember him having any intrest in the Christian religion. But he didn't care much for the Hindu religion either. One time we shared a house with three "Brahmin" guys, extremely religious guys from South India. I liked them fine but he couldn't stand them. He got drunk one night and got after them with a knife. Two of them left that night and never came back. <g> And did he ever like the women.

He really was rich in India but poor as a pauper here. Things were different then. I think his father bought him airplane fare and enough money for one quarter but after that he had to make his own way. He would call home maybe once a year and I remember that could cost nearly $100 dollars (same as $500 today). Immigration was preparing to deport him for not going to school enough. (Immigration was very strict here in the 1960's). I think they gave him a month and in about two weeks he met a girl and married her and told immigration to shove it. They had two wonderful kids.
Slagle



To: arun gera who wrote (68106)8/26/2005 2:08:16 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 74559
 
Arun, I wouldn't call it anglicized. I'd call it civilized. People around the world adopt the cultural norms which suit them and using an efficient lingua franca is a good place to start. The cultures they adopt are civilized cultures because those are the successful cultures.

Being civilized means leaving racist tribal hierarchical kleptocratic alpha male dominance hierarchies to the atavistic aztecs still endemic in the modern world and adopting the civilized ways of life which includes many derivatives from olde englische culture such as that magna carta habeas corpus property owning individualistic human rights stuff, as well as un-english and un-american things such as the metric system [even the french have some good points], sushi, Toyotas, glasnost [the english love their official secrets act and general close to the chest paranoia which is not good for an open society [see that foreigner George Soros and Karl Popper], and my soon-to-be-released new world currency [the economic failure and general hazard of national fiat currencies is a major blot on the planet].

It's a small world these days and communities of interest span the globe, not just to the next town which is usually about a day's walk away in the olde style, with each town more or less self-contained.

Communities of interest have to find commonality to exchange value. That means using common tools of communication and commerce.

You win, Slagle loses.

Mqurice

PS: That haplotype link which gave Ashkenazi Jew [and other] DNA connections across Europe and down into India and Africa showed that India is about as racially pure as the water around the Gateway to India is potable. Contrary to Slagle's racial purity theories. I dare say the same would be found everywhere other than in a few Easter Island type isolated communities.

While the original link to haplotypes isn't working, there's this one, showing the racial impurity of India etc sickle.bwh.harvard.edu I note that one our daughters has a thalassaemia gene and I guessed I would be the carrier, being a more oily darker kind of mediterranean type than my wife with known relatives down that way. Genes have been flowing for a very long time, with boy meeting girl ruining many a fine family's reputation.

I guess I'm part Indian so perhaps can claim some property rights or immigration rights to India. Bangalore is climatically tempting though their cultural norms are still barbaric, with heavily polluted air and public toilets very unattractive [though the outdoorsy ambience of many of them is a pleasant change from city-style concrete block bunkers].