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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (68130)8/26/2005 2:18:41 PM
From: Slagle  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Maurice Re: "racial purity" I never mentioned anything with to regard to racial purity so don't try to say I did. What is important is culture, not race. You are being very slippery, Maurice.
Slagle



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (68130)8/26/2005 3:22:32 PM
From: arun gera  Respond to of 74559
 
Maurice,

I will call it Anglicized. The English do not have a monopoly on civilization. Various cultures have had their pros and cons. But whoever has become more powerful gets to call themselves civilized.

Before the British arrived, the Moghuls had their empire in India. Moghuls were the descendents of Taimur Lang, an efficient destroyer of civilizations, but a brilliant and ruthless military leader.

Anyway, the Moghuls came from Central Asia to Afghanistan to India, and were good tacticians. Howver, they were not lacking the refinements of other cultures. Guess what, they looked up to the Persians. And they made Farsi (persian) the language of their courts. So educated Indians and upper class would learn Farsi. And when the British came, they learned English. And in Pondicherry, Indians learned French, and in Goa they learned Portugese.

>Arun, I wouldn't call it anglicized. I'd call it civilized. People around the world adopt the cultural norms which suit them and using an efficient lingua franca is a good place to start.>



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (68130)8/26/2005 5:52:20 PM
From: arun gera  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
>PS: That haplotype link which gave Ashkenazi Jew [and other] DNA connections across Europe and down into India and Africa showed that India is about as racially pure as the water around the Gateway to India is potable.>

Maurice,

That is funny. However, Bombayites or Mumbaikars would have referred to "the waters in Mahim Creek"

You can say that the same about any of the "races". Recently, I read on a Yahoo link, that researchers who were doing DNA studies on families, discovered that significant percentage of the legal "fathers" were not the genetic "fathers". Surprise, surprise! There are so many of us claiming that our ancestors were Indian or European or Christian or Muslim, and we might just discover that they might well be from somewhere else. Where will our sense of self go?

In Salman Rushdie's "Midnight's Children", the protagonist describes for half the book how many of his physical and other features were so characteristic of his family and ancestors, only to discover that he was switched at birth.

-Arun