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To: deeno who wrote (39115)	8/26/2005 12:16:42 AM
From: bentway	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

I know 11,000 people showed up for 400 minimum wage jobs in Oakland! What,exactly, are YOUR facts showing "they already had jobs"? Do you see a lot of job hopping from one minimum wage job to another in your world? What would be the point? WalMart has a rep as a crummy employer as well.

To: deeno who wrote (39115)	8/26/2005 12:31:38 AM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Respond to of 306849

I have no idea what you are trying to put forth but there are statistics to back up the FACT that the san francisco bay area has the worst job prospects in the state and usually in the nation. And please, I just spent a month in Europe and everybody knows the US undercounts unemployment with their ridiculous "first time jobless claims" which only count if you are unemployed for 6 mos. Of all the people I know who are unemployed, and I know many, nobody has been unemployed for LESS than 6 mos. So 5% first time jobless claims is certainly NOT full employment. And, we also know that 150K jobs/month are required nationally to maintain status quo and we have not maintained that consistently for 4 years. So where did all those people go = permanently unemployed, maybe those are the ones in line at walmart. SCU Survey Finds More Than Half Silicon Valley Firms Still Outsourcing; Little Change in Area Job Growth Numbers Predicted "In spite of continued improvement in the national economic figures, there has been little change in outlook for area employment. Earnings and productivity numbers have rebounded over the last couple of years for local firms, but this has yet to translate into sustained increases in regional employment," said Kris Mitchener, assistant professor of economics at SCU's Leavey School of Business. home.businesswire.com