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To: Rande Is who wrote (320)9/5/2005 3:15:12 PM
From: Mighty_Mezz  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1118
 
It should be noted that Allbaugh is now a lobbyist for Halliburton.

re: Soon after, Brown was invited to join the administration by his old Oklahoma college roommate Joseph Allbaugh, the previous head of FEMA until he quit in 2003 to work for the president's re-election campaign.



To: Rande Is who wrote (320)9/5/2005 3:16:01 PM
From: Mighty_Mezz  Respond to of 1118
 
It should be noted that Allbaugh is now working for Halliburton as a lobbyist.

re: Soon after, Brown was invited to join the administration by his old Oklahoma college roommate Joseph Allbaugh, the previous head of FEMA until he quit in 2003 to work for the president's re-election campaign.



To: Rande Is who wrote (320)9/5/2005 3:24:29 PM
From: Rande Is  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1118
 
So many hacks running the show! Where are the fully-qualified experienced professionals?

Does the blood running through the veins of politicians differ from common Americans?



To: Rande Is who wrote (320)9/5/2005 3:38:27 PM
From: paret  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1118
 
Rande--NOW give us the bios of Nagin and Blanco--

not to mention the many New Orleans "police" officers who came into the force after they lowered the New Orleans police department requirements to allow convicted felons in.



To: Rande Is who wrote (320)9/5/2005 3:49:09 PM
From: Oeconomicus  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1118
 
"..Here's your beloved FEMA leader's bio..

NOTE: While you found a half sentence by me, designed to lead into an important story, to be only partially accurate . ."


1. He is not "[my] beloved FEMA leader" and nothing that I have posted could be construed by a reasonably rational reader as implying I have any affinity for him at all, much less "love."

2. Your statement that I quoted was neither a "half sentence" nor "partially accurate." It was a complete sentence and was wholly inaccurate.

Keep spinning.

BTW, that was not his "bio" - it was an article attacking him. You do know the difference, right?

Here's his bio - or rather an excerpt from it:

Under Secretary Brown has led Homeland Security’s response to more than 164 presidentially declared disasters and emergencies, including the 2003 Columbia Shuttle disaster and the California wildfires in 2003. In 2004, Mr. Brown led FEMA’s thousands of dedicated disaster workers during the most active hurricane season in over 100 years, as FEMA delivered aid more quickly and more efficiently than ever before.

Previously, Mr. Brown served as FEMA's Deputy Director and the agency's General Counsel. Shortly after the September 11th terrorist attacks, Mr. Brown served on the President's Consequence Management Principal's Committee, which acted as the White House's policy coordination group for the federal domestic response to the attacks. Later, the President asked him to head the Consequence Management Working Group to identify and resolve key issues regarding the federal response plan. In August 2002, President Bush appointed him to the Transition Planning Office for the new Department of Homeland Security, serving as the transition leader for the EP&R Division.

Prior to joining FEMA, Mr. Brown practiced law in Colorado and Oklahoma, where he served as a bar examiner on ethics and professional responsibility for the Oklahoma Supreme Court and as a hearing examiner for the Colorado Supreme Court. He had been appointed as a special prosecutor in police disciplinary matters. While attending law school he was appointed by the Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee of the Oklahoma Legislature as the Finance Committee Staff Director, where he oversaw state fiscal issues. His background in state and local government also includes serving as an assistant city manager with emergency services oversight and as a city councilman.

Mr. Brown was also an adjunct professor of law for the Oklahoma City University.


Now, if you want to argue that there are too many lawyers doing jobs in DC that might be better done by people with different training, I'd be inclined to agree. But digging for dirt to indict him in the press in the midst of a disaster based on hearsay from a couple of past associates, and then claiming that constitutes a meaningful bio, is just ridiculous.

And the reality is that federal departmental secretaries and under secretaries are political appointees. They need to have management and leadership skills and an ability to grasp the functions their departments are responsible for, but the people below them are the career bureaucrats who make their departments work (or not work) on a day-to-day basis.

I'm sure there will be plenty of congressional hearings and bipartisan commissions to determine - with the benefit of complete information, objectively, not emotionally, considered - whether Brown or anyone else was negligent in performing their duties.

Pardon me if I don't feel a need to rush to judgement of any individual (or of our entire system of government and political parties as some here are now doing) based on a personal emotional response to a disaster.



To: Rande Is who wrote (320)9/5/2005 4:56:04 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1118
 
Message 21674902



To: Rande Is who wrote (320)9/5/2005 6:48:01 PM
From: Bucky Katt  Respond to of 1118
 
The military told all non-US citizens to stay together for safety, Ms Sachs added.

They later told them they would be secretly smuggled out in groups of 10 under cover of darkness as it had become too dangerous for them to remain in the stadium, she told BBC News.

"When we were leaving, people were going 'Where are you going?' and giving us looks.

"But the military got us out, which we were all thankful for."

Good read>
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