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To: Alighieri who wrote (251457)	9/15/2005 8:33:43 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572695

Where does one's own responsibility for one's own direct actions ever enter in your world view? Irrelevant to the situation. It's the subject of the discussion, silly. I think the guy who blew himself and a bunch of Iraqi workers to smithereans is indicative of something seriously flawed about the society/culture/religion that produced him. JF seems to think these lunatic killers are controlled by outside forces which compel them to commit these horrific acts (as if they have no responsibility for the acts themselves), and the source of all those outside forces are a US troop presence in the country.

To: Alighieri who wrote (251457)	9/15/2005 1:23:47 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1572695

So do you believe the coalition troop presence in Iraq caused this guy to lure a hundred Iraqi laborers to get close to a car full of explosives that he then detonated? That's exactly right. Russian troops catalized muslims in afghanistan. Fighters came from every corner of the muslim world to fight there. They accepted American help while hating America at the same time, and when the russians left defeated, they turned on America and on each other. American troops in saudi arabia catalized OBL's base dramatically. The same thing is happening in Iraq. And things remain unsettled in Afghanistan. In the past week, two Japanese and a British engineer have been killed by the Taliban. ted