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To: LindyBill who wrote (139373)9/18/2005 6:24:44 AM
From: unclewest  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793542
 
Sent this (minus a few deletions) to family and friends last Mon night. The $10,000 plus was donated overnight that night.
uw

Karen and I met our first evacuees in Tyler TX two nights ago. We had pulled into a state campground to spend the night. The next three campsites in our row were families from NO who had lost it all. We were able to give them clothing and school supplies for the 5 kids. Also gave them $20 per family for gas. They were expecting to get assistance from the Red Cross the next day.

We had left Idaho three days before. with a truck and camper full of school supplies, infant and children clothing, pots and pans for several households, blankets, other donations and some cash donated by Lake City Church, Coeur d'Alene; The Presbytarian Church in Spirit Lake, and Hayden Lake Country Club, Karen's hiking group, The library group, The Audobon folks, and some other close friends. Prior to departing, Karen had painted a message on the side of our truck describing what we were doing.

Karen and I were drawn here. This is the largest natural disaster America has suffered. We came here to become part of the solution.

Our first night was at a campground in Bozeman, MT. Two couples watched me park the camper, came over and asked what the message meant. After a brief explanation, they invited us to join them for a wonderful dinner they had just prepared. They wanted to assist us along the way. The following day while gasing up in Cheyene, WY a trucker came over and asked if we were really going to Louisiana. I said yes and showed him the supplies. He handed me a $20 and asked that I give it to a family. That night, the campground we stayed at gave us two plate dinners at no charge and a couple who read the truck message gave Karen $10 at check in. At a truckstop in Salina, KS another trucker spoke with Karen for a few minutes, then handed her $10 for gas to get our load to Louisiana. Along the way, My neighbor, Steve, called from Hayden, Idaho and informed us we had received another $600 in checks in Friday's mail. He will deposit them Monday (today) and we will withdraw the money here using ATMs. T--- (SFA) called yesterday morning to inform that he had sent $450 from some Chapter ---- members. Steve will deposit that too when he receives it. As in the past, we are paying all of our own expenses. The bottom line is we arrived in Lousiana yesterday with a huge pile of goodies, $3,000 in cash donations to give away, and an absolutely 110% positive attitude about America and Americans.

Yesterday morning, my friend (Also a retired Green Beret Officer), Bob --- (SFA) met us on the highway and took us directly to the central Red Cross distribution Warehouse in Alexandria. This facility is servicing 8 counties and dozens of shelters. I got a briefing and a tour...To make a very long story very short (and not wanting to critique), I was not impressed. We decided not to leave any of our load with them. Instead we took it directly to the shelters and gave it directly to the kids who needed it.

My recurring thought last night was how well John --- and the other members of Special Forces Assn. Chapter --- had run the Green Beret warehouse for the Montagnard resettlement and how badly the Red Cross needs their expertise.

We found one SFer in a shelter. SSG Michael A H---, formerly of 7th SFG. He is a civilian now and lost it all in New Orleans. We spoke with him for a while as he helped us off load some goodies. Bob asked Mike why he got discharged. He replied, "Two Purple Hearts." I asked him what he needed. He told me nothing. I asked him if he had any money. He said no. I told him I have some SF donated money and can help him. He looked me right in the eye and said, "Spend it on the kids here, I'll be ok." Then he introduced me to an 11 year old boy who was separated from his father and did not know where his dad is. Mike has "adopted" the kid in the shelter and is looking out for him. I gave Mike $200 and asked him to use it to to help this kid...and others in his shelter. I explained to him he would be assisting us by doing that. I was very comfortable giving money to an SFer to help homeless kids, especially since he had refused money for himself.

I thought about all the kids we all have helped at "A" Team sites all over the world, over the many years.

Next we made the rounds of several shelters. Gave away 1/2 our load and 1/2 the cash. I looked specifically for mothers with little kids and no money and gave every one I found $20 to get supplies for their kid. At least 10 of them gave me a hug and a kiss, most were crying as they said thank you.

Last night we helped load a bus with evacuees going to Colorado Springs. There was no Red Cross or govt involvement in this. A Todd Clevinger from Centennial, CO got together with some Colorado business owners. They have set up a life line from here to Colorado and are paying to ship busloads of families out of this mess. They sent a group of volunteers here. They have been connecting evacuees to job offers and donated housing and other offers in CO. Next load leaves Tuesday night. Bob and Kathy Noe will be touring the shelters today recruiting volunteers who wish to accept this offer. This guy Todd is one helluva man. When the bus arrived it first had to be off-loaded. The storage compartments were filled with cases of baby formula, diapers, H2O and other supplies. We made sure every family getting on that bus had $20 in their pocket for food enroute.

The N--- also work with two other similar civilian orgs and have been assisting in identifying refugees to acept offers elsewhere in the country. They arrange transport with many corporate jet owners who have volunteered to provide free transport.

Today Karen will be working with Kathy in the shelters. Bob will be finishing repairs on a car to donate to a CCN member in Biloxi. Tomorrow, I plan to deliver the rest if our load to Johnny (SFA) in Breaux Bridge, Louisiana.

Bob and Kathy --- have been in the middle of this evacuation since day one. There are 49 Katrina homeless shelters in and around their small town. Bob and Kathy know everyone. They have all the contacts. They are constantly assisting people in and out of shelters. They have beds set up in their living room and bring folks home and feed them when necessary. At 10 pm last night, Kathy was taking 8 folks, who just arrived, to Wal-Mart to get some clean clothes and tooth brushes.

This rescue operation is far from over. Thousands and thousands of evacuees are here. More evacuees are due to arrive today. On top of the 49 shelters already operating a new 750 person shelter is being set up about 30 miles away.

Late last night Bob told me he is considering getting a loan on his house so he can continue to support his rescue activities. I am at his computer now. I can tell you this couple lives modestly. Bob drives a 1995 Plymouth.

Like ya'll I've heard about the $450 million donated to the Red Cross. I have seen they are providing food and shelter to those who find them.

Bob and Kathy are finding and assisting the lost souls. For example, Kathy gave $100 to a New Orleans family stuck after running out of gas while trying to get to relatives. There are hundreds of examples. This SF couple is in the right spot, at the right time, with the right connections, and the proper motivation to assist total strangers.

We are giving Bob $250 for the SOG CCN member in Biloxi and will continue to assist here.

Based on my 20 years of experience resettling Montagnard refugees, I believe a minimum $10,000 donation right now would enable the N--- to continue to do wonders. They have received some donations, but the money goes fast when helping this number of folks.
Mike



To: LindyBill who wrote (139373)9/18/2005 6:28:59 AM
From: unclewest  Respond to of 793542
 
This one went on Thurs.
uw

Dear family and friends,
My last email ended with Monday's activities. This is an update since then.

Tuesday, we found another refugee camp 20 miles outside town. They were ok, but needed much. They were housing about 100 in primitive shelters and were expecting another 50 by today. A church is helping them out. We gave what we had with us and plan to revisit today. We also heard about another larger camp 25 miles from here and will go there today.

Tuesday night, Todd loaded a bus with 60 more folks to go to Colorado. All have sponsors, jobs and one year of free housing waiting for them. The Colorado staff went with them, but promised to return in two weeks for more loads. Remember, this program is all sponsored by private citizens. Amazing!

Tuesday day, Karen and I drove to Lafayette and met with Johnny ----, another SFA member. He showed us the big Red Cross show down there. Johnny needed a hundred book bags with school supplies. We brought them with us and delivered them to a facility providing temporary (they hope) schooling for 550 kids from New Orleans. We also visited the huge pet shelter in the old University of Louisiana Dome. These are pets that are owned by people in shelters. It is manned by volunteers. Many are 4-H age. They had signs everywhere asking for $. We left them a donation for pet food.

There is plenty of work to do...lots more people are still being evacuated. There are at least 51 shelters in this immediate area now. The Red Cross services about 30-35 of them. They do not provide supplies to shelters/camps they don't set up. And you cannot walk into their shelters and get food. You must be staying there.
We have been finding people in camps outside town...We now know about 7 of them.

We ran out of school supplies and infant clothing and have been buying more to give away in the shelters.

Today we drove by a country church with a sign "Housing 84 evacuees, can you help." We stopped, found the asst pastor and told him we were there to help and asked what his biggest need is. He said he needed meat to feed everyone tonight. He has a car, so we gave him $200 and our phone # in case he needs help tomorrow. We also explained where he might get food for the people he is housing. I asked him where the pastor was. He replied that he had taken some extra clothing they had to Baton Rouge (125-150 miles away) to another church, housing folks.
Thank God for these extra shelters and camps because I have heard over and over that the Red Cross has been telling folks their shelters are full.

Also yesterday, Kathy found a family of 10 in a van with no gas. She spoke with them. Found out they just got to town...having heard there is shelter here. They want to go to Georgia to stay with relatives. Kathy gave them $250 for gas and food and they gratefully left to drive to Georgia. We have had numerous incidents like that. I finally realized that Alexandria is just about one tank of gas out of New Orleans.
Many other incidents yesterday, a blanket here, $20 there and so on. At 2030 last night Kathy left to pick up a grandmother at the hospital and reunite her with her family in a shelter.

Karen and I stopped for a coffee mid morning and met a couple from New Orleans. They were using two computers in the coffee shop. The women spoke to Karen non-stop for 20 minutes. We tried to determine if they needed help. They assured us they were ok. The man told me he just got a job offer in Houston and their families are helping them because their home in NO is still underwater. On the way out I told Karen she gave that women exactly what she needed...a friendly ear.

Yesterday afternoon, Karen was buying supplies in a store. As she came out, three women walked over to our truck, read the sign and thanked us both profusely for helping. All three lost it all in New Orleans and were staying in one of their friend's homes. These were older ladies...as we left, one hugged Karen and gave her $20. Karen told her I cannot take this. The women (crying) said please take it and give it to some one in a shelter.
Are Americans unbelievable or what.

The $10,000 I asked for a few days ago is covered. Special Operations Association is sending Bob $3,000. John ---, a friend from Vietnam, sent $2,000 overnight. John was with B/1/69 Armor, the unit that reinforced my A Team during the battle of Ben Het. We met again some 10 years ago at a campground in the Florida Keys. Another $985 came to Bob yesterday, and $375 to us... and I know more is on the way. Thank you.

We expect another Green Beret to join us this weekend and yet another SFA member coming with a group of up to 8 next week. Both are bringing large loads of supplies.

The weather emergency is over. The human devastation is not. Rescues and evacuations continue. Refugees/evacuees continue to come out in large numbers. While in Lafayette, Johnny also took me to the "new" U of LA Dome and explained they are housing 15,000 with a three day stay limit. They are still getting lots of folks in and shipping all of them out.

We are fine. Now that we have all of the goodies out of our camper, it seems much larger. I finally figured out the problem with the A/C unit last night. Nights have been OK but 96 degrees during the day in this humidity got it just too hot when we came back every evening.

I heard complaints about price gouging fuel prices on the radio yesterday. We have not seen it. I filled up the truck yesterday afternoon with diesel fuel for 2.49 per gallon.

Luv ya'all!
Ya'heah?
Mike



To: LindyBill who wrote (139373)9/18/2005 6:42:15 AM
From: unclewest  Respond to of 793542
 
This one went Friday night (again slightly edited.). The stuff described is in Alexandria, LA. We are in Jackson, MS right now.

Toured the MASA warehouse in Jackson yesterday afternoon. Huge operation for a multi-church and private org sponsored warehouse. 7 forklifts were working. Also visited the Christ United Church warehouse in N Jackson last night...another large OP. Both warehouses are sub-dividing loads and pushing them to churches South and East housing evacuees.
uw

We all continued to assist folks in the shelters. Our goal shifted from providing emergency on site assistance to helping families get out of this area. I have started telling folks the emergency is over, now you must make plans for your life.

Met with some Red Cross folks and got them to agree to provide and deliver assistance to church camps. Got the paperwork, learned how to fill it out and went out to several camps and taught pastors how to do it. They agreed to pass the info on.

Karen spent all day yesterday sorting clothes and helping people free shop at a United Way/Salvation Army facility on Jackson St.
Kathy went to various shelters and assisted some folks with coordinating transportation out of here. Also delivered some medications shipped here.
Bob finished the car and went on some runs with me.

Random thoughts FWIW:

There are several different systems in place here. The first to be up and running were the churches and church camps. They are intertwined with each other and other congregations throughout the country. Though not apparently well-organized, this is a self and mutually supporting group that provides an enormous, but nearly invisible, amount of support.

The Red Cross was next on the scene. For all the bad-mouthing I hear...I don't think folks (even folks needing help) realize their capabilities. The Red Cross has the vehicles to transport people and supplies, they have huge amounts of money and supplies, and they have a basic chain of command.
95% of their labor comes from volunteers. The volunteers I met are kind-hearted and want to help. They don't have all the answers. They don't always know the most efficient way to do things. They do work their butts off day and night.

Pinging on the Red Cross is an excercise in futility. If you are an evacuee you have to do business with the Red Cross. It is very important to register with both the Red Cross and the FEMA system. Red Cross for emergency support and FEMA for long-term support.

Then there is the Salvation Army and United Way. They are oriented to providing necessities to individuals. From what I've seen, both are very good at it.

One more invisible but important group consists of American volunteers. Like us they have come here from around the country hauling truck and trailer loads of supplies. Each uses different techniques, but they all manage to find and assist large numbers of folks who are desperate and unfortunately are not yet in the system or the system is not responding to them quick enough.

A comment on personal responsibility:
Far too many of the folks affected by this tragedy (who I've met) have no sense of self-reliance and self-sufficiency. They want, expect and demand the government provide their every need. There is one simple reason for this. They failed themselves and their families by not being prepared for an emergency and not having an evacuation kit.
Department of Homeland Security has been preaching that we all must do this since they were founded three years ago.

If the evacuees came out with a few days supply of food and some water purification tablets for themselves much of the hardship would have never happened.

If the evacuees had the sense to become first-movers and evacuate themselves at the first-sign of danger, much of the hardship would never have happened.

I realize some folks needed assistance to get out, but if the able-bodied were not leaning so hard on every system, more of the genuine needy would have received the help they needed.

When the Pilgrims waded ashore at Plymouth Rock, they did not walk into a Red Cross shelter. The Salvation Army did not send them a truck full of clothing. And FEMA did not have trailers in place for them to move into.

Lesson Learned:
Every American needs to make their family self-sufficicent for emergencies.

Karen and I are leaving shortly for Mississippi. The --------- in Jackson requested assistance for a number of veterans over there who apparently got wiped out. Mel called and asked me to head that way. I should be there by noon.

Mike



To: LindyBill who wrote (139373)9/18/2005 4:27:33 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793542
 
< If all that a moderate Moslem sees around him as the public face of Islam are groups that call for jihad, either overtly or slyly, he may well feel that there must be something wrong with him not to feel that same rage and hate. He'll probably fall silent, afraid to object, both because of physical threat, and more important, fear of social shunning.>

That reminds me of Nazi Germany. When all around are shouting Sieg Heil, it is a good idea to join in, or at least be very quiet. Islamic Jihad is much the same as the idea of a 1000 Year Reich. Apostates, Jews, Infidels and others are for the chop and rule is to be absolute.

Nipping Nazis in the bud would have been an excellent idea. Supporting Osama and Islamic Jihad against Gorby was a really dumb idea. It was lucky that Russia did the bulk of the work in defeating Germany in WWII [contrary to popular wisdom in the USA, Britain was saved more by the USSR than by the USA, though of course the USA was a big help]. Russia now is a bulwark against Islamic Jihad and has suffered Beslan and other carnage from Islamic Jihad. A shame Gorby and Raygun didn't join forces in the 1980s to resolve Afghanistan's political problems with the USSR without giving Osama a free hand. Raygun stupidly continued Carter's ideas of supporting Islamic Jihad against Gorby.

There was an opportunity to improve Afghanistan, rather than the absurd Carter regime [Brezinski] idea of "giving the USSR their Vietnam". If that had been done, the Twin Towers would still be standing. globalresearch.ca

Note the stupid idea that giving the USSR their Vietnam resulted in the breakup of the USSR. No it didn't. Gorby was civilized and was reforming because he thought it a good idea, not because there was carnage in Afghanistan due to Carter's and Zbigniew Brzezinski's dopey ideas.

Mqurice

PS: I'm sure Zbig was nuts because of his silly name.